people's arguments here have the assumption that what your doing is wrong. you guys arent even tallking on the same level. whether it is right or wrong is another argument...
but do what you feel (or is it think?) is right

I really wouldn't do it.

1. It may not be legally or biblically wrong, but it is way to close to the target.

2. You'll feel like shit afterwards, self esteem will plumet.

3. Don't entrust morals to a forum.

4. You think with your head not your cock. Your a person not an out of control fuck machine that just does what feels good to their dick.

5. She'll probably feel crap afterwards aswell.

AHAHAHAHHA, hahahha, HA!!!!

The amount of people that voted yes..... I agree with chief on this, do it then seek medical help
To save the star wars talk, i think this is more like an episode of jackass..... Its not illegal, you will recover, your brain should be telling you that ur an idiot and not to do it (but you do it anyways) and most importantly, IT SHOULD BE FILMED SO EVERY1 CAN LAUGH THEIR ARSES OFF!!

oh, and yeah rye lee, as always, is the face of reason. Listen to him, he is a smart guy and yes i agree with all his points..... but, i dunno, refer back to my jackass points

/madals

p.s. edit, on ur FR, I think that would be unfair to make her feel like that in all honesty. Look at it this way, would u want some1 to do that to you?

Man... If you're good at pick-up I can't even work out why you'd be considering this (unless it's some sort of fetish). Why not just go out and pick up some other girl, there are more than enough out there! As someone pointed out already this basically just oneitis, that's the only real thing fueling your desire to get this PARTICULAR girl when there are so many more out there. In this case, though, she should be off the cards to begin with. Just go out and fuck 10 other girls and it'll all work itself out

In short: Don't shit on your own doorstep

Besch, why do you have an urge to do this?
now, i have a guess that the reason you want to do this isnt because she is a HB, isnt because ur attracted to her more than another girl but is because she is the only girl you have come across recently you have real doubt in your mind if YOU are able to game sucessfully.
I think what has happened is you have become addicted to PU (not the sex, but the actual PU) just as someone would a drug.
And what happens when some1 becomes more and more dependant on a drug? they take more every time since their body becomes used to it and therefore you need to take more to get the same kick. It might sound stupid but when u are successful (in anything from a N close to a F close) your body rewards you with indorphines, people can and have become adicted to this feeling. Its just like the way people get adicted to extreem sports, its because of the adrenalin rush they do it.
If this is the case for you, then i would strongly suggest looking at WHY you have made PU such a large part of your life. Look at your origional goals when u joined the community and what u have done now.

Now, i might be compleatly wrong but its a guess. Why else would some1 who has the option to game HB9+ consistantly want to do something like this? unless its a fethish ofc
/madals

Nobdoy has mentioned the possible effects on her. We know Beschatten is fucked up already!

I think it goes against your "I don't care what people think" persona that you're seeking approval from these guys. Or even that you just think it'll be funny... for these guys. I think you have to respect yourself and throw this one away.

... Although it would be kinda funny...

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Bes...NO!!!! In the gospel of Carlos Mencia, you're Dee De Dee. Cousin lovin is just not kosher, no matter the technicalities.

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This isn't because I'm attracted to her or have one-itis for her, I just want to see how far PU can be taken. Once the ball gets rolling there is no stopping it and I am starting to feel obligated to do wild PUs and push the frontier for myself.

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I'm addicted to facing my fears.

So your doing it just for the challenge?

Just the fact that your asking it here should provide you with your answer.

"If in doubt, /afk out"

sorry for the wow-humour ;p

Aw don't put words in my mouth
I highly advise against him doing this, but I still think he should go see a shrink XD

You want to see how far PU can be taken? That is seriously the worst reason ever. It's totally objectifying to women and dehumanizing to yourself as well. I often talk about sex in very light and loose terms, morally speaking, but think about what it can really mean to you. Sex is a human experience, not something mass-produced in a factory.

She's family! I love her in a non-passionate, platonic-way that a family member should love another family member. I'm just going to make it..non-platonic... I mean I grew up with her and shit but the bloodline is so distant it really isn't family 'technically'. I just want to see if I can break the 'family' values that are instilled within women. Peace. I'm going for it. Votes are in.

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I'm addicted to facing my fears.

once you have done it, i expect a FR and also u to book urself into a nice padded room ok
I am not sure if you should be cheered or cried about tbh, either way its creating a strange emotion in my stomache

I've made it fairly public knowledge that I did a short stint in the porn industry (apparently it was even being discussed in the chat the other night, lol). At the time it seemed like a good thing, I got paid to fuck hot chicks, a very large portion of men have the dream of being in porn at one time or another. Several years later now, I look back upon it and it makes me feel dirty, I prostituted myself and I wasn't even paid very well (I wonder whether being paid more would have made it better or worse).

Beschatten, I think if you do this, you may look at yourself and go, "Sweet, I'm such a good PUA that I managed to fuck my cousin, I have pushed the boundries!" Now think of yourself in 5 years, think of yourself in 10. Think of HER in 5 years or 10 and ask yourself whether you think you are gonna be happy with your decision at that point (I know it's hard to put yourself in that place, but for your sake try), think about how this is gonna affect her, how she's gonna view herself, what choices she may make in the future because of this. I see this as a potential gateway drug effect and it leading you guys down bad paths, or perhaps one or both of you end up looking at yourselves and feeling sick and disgusted with what you've done.

Both Chief and I are on the same page here and a few other guys have said some of these points as well. You need to take a break and look at yourself, look at where you came from, where you plan on going. Is your goal to objectify women and people and not value them at all? Is your goal to feel empty inside and only seeing how far you can push things, but never feeling satisfied because you don't see the people you are interacting with, you only see objects? You're on a precipice here my friend and if you keep going, you're just gonna fall right off and maybe you'll catch yourself on the way down, maybe you'll find yourself hitting rock bottom, or maybe you'll find that there is no bottom and you end up falling and feeling empty for the rest of your life, trying to fill the void, but never succeeding. These are the scary things that people talk about when they discuss the negative aspects of the PUA community and you're willfully dabbling in them, but it isn't too late to make a choice and turn things around. It's a choice and it's up to YOU.

If you don't want to listen to us, that's fine, but you've made topics about feeling empty and not valuing women or pickup anymore, so perhaps you should do some deep soul searching.

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~ Rye

Sorry rye lee i stole this from your sticky. But i think it will be useful.

Besch, all joking aside Rye is right. There is major potental for disaster here, not now if i am honest but in years to come.
In the worthwhile threads post there is this 1 ( ways-the-seduction-community-can-make-y ... 10652.html ). It covers a basic warning of what PUA can do to you if you obsess over it. As i posted in a previous more serious reply i think you may be having an addict reaction to PU. You need a more extreem does to get the same kicks. Its pointless me repeating all the stuff Rye Lee said about where will it end, but he said it better than i think i could.
Obsession in any area of life will only result in a lacking in the other, to draw on a PUA refrence look at the early chapters of the MM. 3 main areas to life "wealth, health and romance". This is a very basic outlook on life and tbh its far more complicated, but there is no way you can only focus on one without the others being reduced. Once one goes to low, u risk losing all 3.
Make sense?
/madals
p.s. Although i have joked about this before, but i laughed when i broke my leg getting dry humped at a wedding a month ago.... i may have laughed about it, but it has wrecked my whole summer and trust me, bones heal better than time can ever heal a bad memory.