Hello Zip,

This question has come from gunwitch's quote of "acts like a duck, must be a duck". My interpretation is that he's talking about "if he acts like he's getting laid/has chicks/has friends/enjoys life, then he MUST...why else act that way?"

I used this in another post but a very important boxer said "people thought muhammad ali was the best because HE said he was the best".

Now for the question:

Can you tell if a guy IS getting laid...HAS gotten laid....confident in his ability to produce a good lay? This being assumed without any verbal boosting/details about having sex. The question is to ...the stranger walking down the street and the guy who just approached you on the sidewalk.

If you can tell, do you consciously think it? If so....what about his aura/way of being makes you believe he's getting tail?

Thank you for reading!

eventually it shouldn't be about acting....but yes, knowing and being your best will definitely show.

Think of the Austin Powers movie - the whole "Mojo" deal. There are just qualities that air off people when they have it. More eye contact, straighter posture, better groomed, smiles. There are all sorts of small signs you subconsciously produce that females pick up on. It is primal; how do you think the female tigress choses which male she is going to let bite her face off? (and also note that it really is the MALE tiger that gets to chose the females...cough, cough, cough )

but wait...not my forum post, lol.

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Okay, so due to personal reasons, I'm pulling a 40 days/40 nights senario. No sex (including masturbation) till I am good enough at PU to pull any woman I want consistantly. My question is, how would a woman behave or react to the fact that she has little chance of getting down with me. I'm thinking a double edged sword situation. Either she gives up due to it or she will try to rape me. What do you think?

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Hey Zip,

Am going away for a few weeks soon but would love a response to this.
Posted it a while ago, but maybe got forgotten i nyour current hectic state!
Look forward to your response, thanks again!






Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 11:18 pm Post subject:

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ThatTallKid wrote:
Hey there

Saw this thread and was very interested. And learnt so lot form your answers Zip so thanks J
So much interesting stuff there. I have quite a few questions that I will send (sorry it will be long!!) and any help on any of the points would be amazing thanks so can hopefully try it all. Thanks

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Learnt a lot from this site so far, but had a new situation today and didn't know what to do. It happened twice in 10 minutes, just walking down the street with a mate when we saw these nice girls (both on their own) we didn't have much time to start and use an opener but I wanted to. It was hard to make eye contact and share a smile (I guess this is the bitch shield :S) Just wondering, how to look at them, and share a smile so you know to start a conversation etc. Or even if just passing and having no intention of opening, how to get a smile rather than looking like any desperate creep.

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I'm just wondering, how do you set yourself apart when chatting on-line places such as 'bebo' or 'myspace'? I am using these sites at the moment to get msn addresses so I can practise techniques so they will be more natural in a live environment. It seems that everything (the judging whether to accept an add) is done on looks (which is fine for me as I am not that bad) I am just wondering how to make a more interesting start rather than just saying 'hey, how are you.' etc like everyone does! Or just complimenting her looks like most AFC’s would do! What I'm basically asking is for a few conversation starters that make you different and more interesting. I was just thinking that asking their opinion on a random issue 'whether your mate should ditch his girlfriend for cheating' would probably freak them out a bit! Also, have you any ideas how to make your profile more exciting, so that girls literally come to you and want to add you rather than the other way around?

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I’m a 18 year-old lad from England + I generally act well, busting on girls, taking two steps forward and one back with some people. These people I am probably more comfortable with. This works well and I am close with a lot of them. However new people such as people I see occasionally at college, gym etc. sees me, as perhaps quiet and my real person can’t get out. It seems fake to start conversations and I don’t know what to say to get things started like I so naturally do at other times. At other times, I am not very ‘alpha male’ I say things and sometimes it gets ignored, so wanted to know how to speak so it is always heard and in a way respected. Lastly, in terms of favours and not licking a woman’s bum! How much is allowed? There are many people, within college, that if a cute girl asks them for help with an coursework etc. they will drop their last minute deadline to help out this girl. I know this is not how to be! How can I be dominant in this situation, or is being nice ok?!

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Even after reading quite a few dating books...(Mystery, DDA, Speed Seduction, Dating Wizard, Pick Up 101) I still do not know how to start! Well I kind of do, but not carry on for how it feels right for me. I'll give you 1 quick example. At the gym today, a 9 (friend of a gym friend) came near me and recognised me. She said hey, I said hey back and we smiled... THAT WAS IT! I don’t know how to carry on this, asking how are you etc. to me seems boring etc. It's just so different with a nice girl (even though I'm not actually nervous) I just feel like I need something to say and the opinion things etc. I can’t seem to use! Another similar question about my changing personality. In certain situations everything changes, when out at a party etc. sometimes I act all nervous as if perhaps people are watching etc. If I’m having a conversation with a mate and they turn to talk to someone else for a second I freeze, often pretending to text someone or be on the phone for a bit just because I feel uncomfortable not doing something. All this is very jumbled, so sorry!



Thanks so much in advance! Andy

hey zip,
jsut wondering about some dancefloor things.

is it ok to dance with mates. i dance with some guys who get allot of female attention. does that reflect well on me? on the other scale if i danc with mates who dont is that bad?

when dancing with them (my mates) and chicks are dancing behind me or near me how to i start dancing with them. i dont like the look of guys who walk up and grind chicks asses. these girl normally ave their backs turned and their friends lookingover her shoulder. tips?

thanks in advance

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After reading through about 20 or so pages in the thread, i seem to remember somebody wanting more AFCs to comment. So, whether the request was kidding or not here i am I remember you said that the hello my name is blank line was beyond resuscitation. I'm a sixteen year old boy, so how else should i start a conversation with a HB at barnes and noble. PS canned openers seem kind of icky to me because it seems it kind of leads to an insincere reaction/conversation. However i am probably wrong and i would love for a real live PUA to correct me

Approach anxiety is stopping me from approaching which is making me very very stressed. Is there anything you can suggest to help me deal with it?

Locke, shut up

Actually, mojo is a nice way of putting it. It's a vibe we get.

Here's the thing. "Acts like a duck, must be a duck" yes, but also remember, "A rich man doesn't have to say he's rich."

What do both those quotations put together mean, and how do you put them together in a congruent way? Look, if you're spouting how much ass you've gotten, how many friends you have, and how awesome you are.... we smell someone trying to make up for something.

If you LIVE how awesome you are, are comfortable with your sexuality and expressing, in a calibrated but unabashed way, that you are a sexual being, and DHV (it's called DEMONSTRATE not SHOUT FROM A MEGAPHONE) how wicked sweet of a social guy you are... she'll get it.

I can pretty much tell if a guy or a girl has had sex before. I can pretty much tell if he's going to be good, just by watching his walk. The lower part of your body language (from the waist down) is representative physically and subconsciously of your sexual prowess. Now, that's only because I've studied body language... but naturally women will get this vibe. It's an innate gift women are given to "read" what's really going on with guys through their body language.

Now, what does that mean? Either make your life awesome on your own or learn the tools to walk and DHV like you are comfortable in your own skin, and have experienced things others would pay to hear about.

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Ah, this is where the handy dandy wing comes in handy...

First of all... check your behavior. Are you coming across like a dick to the obstacle? Are you negging the target too hard? Are you coming across as needy? Something you're doing is triggering this response in the friend.

But, back to techniques: (if you're going at it alone)

there are several ways to deal with an unimpressed obstacle... you either satiate them, distract them, or isolate away from them.

1.) Satiate: You can give them what they want. Directly acknowledge that she's not impressed by you, and what's up (in a fun, playful way.) Don't buy her a drink or try to WIN her over, tell her a really nice DHV story (don't forget about your target) to show her that you're a humane, caring, bad ass who saves kittens from trees and makes the ladies swoon.

2.) Distract: Get the obstacle away from the set. Nasty bitches are only as powerful as their social circle. Escort her over to a guy you opened earlier in the night from another set, and set them up. Or, make up a game for the set to play, where they have to scavenger hunt through the bar, separately (of course, you'd stick with the target.) Do a bar trick you know you'll win, and make her go get you a drink as a consolation prize.

3.) Isolate: Get your target away from the obstacle. Your ability to do this should be a direct result of your comfort level in your own skin, and your ability to come across as non-threatening yet exciting.

Again, I stress, the real issue is what did you do to make the friend unimpressed? Bad body language, nasty attitude towards something, neediness, etc.

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Okay, dancefloor is just like any other social environment. You are judged by the company you keep. If you're dancing with badasses, you're one of them. (As long as you don't look totally out of place.) If you're dancing with guys who are a bit sucky... then... well.... unless yall look like you're having the best time in the world, dont' care what anyone else thinks, and are making people laugh with you.

To dance with a girl, just check for proximity. Usually, a girl will be asking to be asked to dance. Just turn around, either nod your head for her to come over and dance with you, or work your body language so you isolate her away from the group from a 45 degree angle.

The circle of chicks is always a hard one. You don't want to come in from directly the side because that's a hostile angle. You can't come in from the front because it's a circle, damnit! Either take her hand, spin her into you, and continue to dance, or join the circle of chicks and give them a good time.

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Hey Zip I have a couple of questions,

1. This is for day-game, I can see you're from NYC, so this is great because that's where I like to sarge. Anyway, say YOU are walking down the street and you get opened with which way is china town or something, what would be a good way to transition, or is that just a stupid opener to begin with? I'm still relatively new to day-game.

2. Whats a good way to stop a moving set while you're walking down the fashion district or something and not come off as creepy?

yeah, pretty much. She's either going to give up, or get so turned on she'll try to jump your bones without any logic involved.

When a guy doesn't want to sleep with girl, it's such a shock that we start questioning ourselves. Our worth. It turns into more than about you and more about her proving that she's sexually viable.

Once you've had that kind of climax though, it's pretty much a let down that fizzles out.

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Look, I don't like to use other people's canned material. However, when you're starting out... canned material is perfectly safe and fantastic to use. Why not? You KNOW it's worked before (it's been field tested by PUAs who have come before you.) That takes the pressure off WHAT you say. It's a good tool.

However, everyone knows I'm a big proponent of naturalistic style. If you're at a book store... go direct. She's got a book, say something funny about it, make a comment, introduce yourself, and make her qualify.

She's got Dante's Inferno. You come up and say, "So, which circle of hell would you put Bush in?" BLA BLA BLA, laugh, banter, "Hi, my name is _____." "What other epics have you read?" or, even better, "What draws you to such a complicated piece of literature? Are you a smart blonde, or something?"

WHATEVER. Direct game is hard because it's improvisational. Direct game is fantastic because it's improvisational.

If you're just starting out, try improving. If you're bombing on that, go to other's canned material (Like herbal's Dating for Dummies opener...) Then you progress to your own canned material. Then you progress to just being able to say whatever the fuck you want.

It's not about the material. It's about the Inner Game.

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wow, 60 pages. That is a very huge accomplishment in such little time; even bigger than 50...considering it is 60?


I have a feeling this page itself is going to be uber special - it's a 6!



Zip, a question!:

should someone place the same requirements (maybe not the best term?) on people while in search for friends, as they would for general Pick Up?

Also, when "interacting" (as apposed to sarging - shout out MEDIC!) would you go about conducting the same methodology - well, skipping seduction of course - as you would in PickUp?

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