my girl and I love each other. She fell in love with me, and cheated on her boyfriend to be with me. Two days ago, she was really faded, and she was really upset about her mom dying, and than continued to get more faded until she actually did fade into blackout, back to reality, blackout, back to reality, blackout mode. She was at her house with her 8 roommates. She cheated on me with one of them this night. He told her he had something to show her in his room. The next clip she remembers is something that makes me very sad. I'm more hurt than I imagined i'd be if this ever happened. She is physically sick by the whole thing, and she hurts too. I practice love and forgiveness, so of course I forgive her. Since I can forgive her, why shouldn't I? Being with her would make me happier, we COULD live together in an amazing life, more pure than we can now comprehend. Don't give me this alpha beta pua bullshit, I just want the non-social robots with a heart to help me in some way or help her stop this from happening. Maybe show her that I am everything she wants and needs, I am the only guy that has ever made her cum without her using her hand, I got her from hardly ever coming to her squirting every time, so i know that has nothing to do with it. I know the only thing she finds attractive about this guy is that he's a fun drunkard. I don't drink, and i'm not that exciting. She loves drinking and excitement. Anyway, thank you all, and flow with the way.

If you think that the relationship can work out rationally, and their is little chance of you becoming emotionally hurt.


I don't think any PUA would call it beta unless you were acting irrationally..


Do you not think you are fun/exciting?

If you really care, then by all means try to make it work. Sometimes people do stupid things and react poorly under stress and such, so forgiveness can be perfectly reasonable in such cases.

Just don't start acting like a hurt puppy dog and letting her know that you're so hurt by it and you just wanna love her and he doesn't and all that crap, cause that's gonna show her that you're not worth it and that you don't have the value that you need to show her in order to win her back. Show her that you're a high value man, that you're better for her, but do it by being the man that she fell for, not by being the guy that has been with her for a while and that is all mushy and lovey dovey, cause that's not where she is right now.

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So, to clarify: Distraught, she drank a lot a lot, and then had sex with somebody "fun"?

Do you not see the answers here?

As a sidenote to this - I'm going to make the assumption that she told you in the form of "I did something bad *cry* <story> - please forgive me?" and you did instantly because she cried. It sets a bad precedent is all I'm saying.

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all of you were helpful. and no, she didn't say i did something bad *cry* please forgive me. she was crying though. and she didn't ask for my forgiveness until deep into the conversation. and I didn't forgive her until this morning really. We are supposed to see eachother after work today, I just planned on telling her what we were going to do and that she was staying at my house tonight.

I think i'm exciting in a different way. and I don't really think that he is exciting either, he just has a fancy punk haircut, and has alot of emotional issues mixed with heavy drinking, and her best friend tell her he's awesome and shit. Yeah, I'll be who I was, when I was impressive to her.

I dont mean to be the dickhead here but it sounds like your asking for answers that you only want to hear. Once again not tryin to be a dick but thats how its coming off, you should be accepting answers from both a pua perspective and the other.

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words taken supaflya. Does anyone know of a good pua guru that would help a relationship situation?

I know what you're feeling. Listen man, sometimes women, when they are emotional and really unstable they fuck up and do irrational things. This has nothing to do with a PUA, forgive her. If what you have going for you is that good, than stick with it. Don't let her slip through you're fingers.

"Once you find the woman of your dreams, stick with her" - Ross Jefferies

But, inorder to make sure it never happens again, put you're foot down. Don't be an asshole but be assertive and make her have the realization that she can lose you if it happens again. Strong as steel, smooth as silk.

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that is perfectly within my consciousness. also, I told her we were on a 'break' from eachother when I wasn't thinking too clearly and shocked. Do i even have to make it more clear that she can lose me?

mASF has a section of the forum dedicated to relationships and there's some guys that are pretty good at that stuff over there, I think it's worth checking out.

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