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I'll cut straight to the chase with you guys:


Im currently writing a book about seduction and pick-up. It isn't going to be long - just a hundred pages or so. I just want to tightly pack the knowledge that I have in a format for all you guys to understand because I really think I have some information that could change your lifestyles for good.



Let me tell you a little about myself:

I have been meeting girls on the street, in the clubs, just about anywhere that is, since I was 15 years old. At the age of 16 I accidentally met a guy who was much older, he was 36 years old at that time, who basically introduced me to a very tight group of guys, who were all MADLY successful with women.



There were times when all of these guys would get together and share stories, but because each of them had a completely different personality and had things going on, these "get togethers" were rare. Soon I got to know each and every one of them on a personal level and would hang out 1 on 1 with whoever was available at the time, approaching girls and sometimes taking them home that same evening.



What those guys did seemed MONSTROUS at the time, but in 4 years of hanging out with them every single day I quickly absorbed their styles, methods of approach, secret things they were using to get into a woman's head, their philosophies and MOST IMPORTANTLY things they did to get to the level where they were now from the very beginning. I have become what I am now just because of these guys and I am willing to share all the secrets.



The book is going to be very much different from what is being taught right now in the seduction industry, but again - what is being taught right is for those who want MEDIOCRE results.



I have spent a lot of time looking over what the seduction scene in America is offering right now, I looked over most seminars of the top leading "gurus" in the community and it seems like most guys that teach seduction right now aren't on the high enough level to truly understand whats going on between men and women.
But anyway, I could rant about this topic for hours, so I'll just stop at that.




So what I need from you guys is to ask me questions. In the book I will publish your questions, give you credit for them, and give the answer. I need A LOT of questions from you. I would like to talk about things that you are interested in A LOT . So looking back at what I said about colossal success with women, ask me questions on that. Aim HIGH. I have a lot of things to share with you guys and a lot of breakthrough information to reveal.



So keep it simple, to the point and please use as little acronyms as possible.



Ask away here, PM me, or email to me at
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Just making these up from the top of my head:

1) What do you do when you're put in the "friend" zone?

2) How do you respond to a woman who gives you a compliment?

3) What is the most overused opener?

4) What's an example of good bodylanguage?

5) How do you lower a bitch shield?


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6) What to do if you screw up when she give you LMR?

7) What to do if SHE Freezes YOU out

8 ) Day Game VS Night Game; How to tweak your game for different settings

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I'm going to give you only 4 basic questions ;)

9) How to suck the girl inside your reality, engaging her emotionally?

10) Whats a good delivery for ESP routines?

11) What to do if a girl flakes on you?

12) I know that my girl is lying to me, what should I do?

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13) what are some really good ways to get a k-close

14) what are some good phone game tips

15) how can you deal with a girl who has an AFC boyfriend

16) what is a good way to build interest on a girl with a boyfriend


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good questions guys, keep 'em coming.

I've just actually sat down and started writing answers to your questions and some of the themes that I'm going to talk about in my book came out on paper.

I wrote down some names of the chapters that will be in the book and what they will cover.

Here's some of them for you to check out:


My philosophy behind approaching literally schools of different girls aka “Shotgun method” and closing the deal with most of them afterward.

One shot - One kill method. How to get the girl you laid your eyes upon and actually make her yours.


How to make an irresistible offer of yourself by knowing what a particular girls wants.


The list is kind of lengthy so you can check out the rest here:

http://blog.undergroundmagnetism.com/20 ... f-my-mind/



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17. The diffrince in pick up styles for a relationship vs. One nighters

18. How to pull your buddys into the PUA way without lookin like an odd ball.

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17. The diffrince in pick up styles for a relationship vs. One nighters

18. How to pull your buddys into the PUA way without lookin like an odd ball.
17. If you position yourself a certain way to the girl she'll perceive you as a relationship material and will decide if she wants you as a bf or not. That isn't a good position to be in to begin with, because you lose almost all control over the situation. If you want her in the relationship, sex have to come first. Then after sex you just keep hanging out and having more sex. Once she develops romantic feelings towards you, she'll start talking to you about getting into a relationship with her.

For one-nighters you have to display some different qualities and be ready to actually have sex with her the same night. There is a secret which most guys don't know and thats why they don't have a lot of one night stands even though they can. The secret is simple. All you have to do is to truly want the girl you met that night to come to your place, and to do that you simply have to like the place where you live. You have to be comfortable. Then you can tell her something along the lines of "Let's go check out the fishes at my place" and she'll come.
#1 - you have to really want the girl to come with you
#2 - make your place cozy and sexy.

So to wrap this up - it depends on where you pick the girl up and what you want to do with her. If it's one night stand - have sex with her that same night, if you want relationship - have sex with her the same night or couple of days after you meet her, then by talking to her take away the blame for having sex with you the same night and make her feel comfortable with you, and keep hanging out after that night. If it's a one-nighter, don't keep hanging out :lol:


18. To pull them in - simply show to them how you pick up girls , get their numbers, go on dates etc. After that they'll be the ones asking you to teach them how to do it.

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13) what are some really good ways to get a k-close

14) what are some good phone game tips

15) how can you deal with a girl who has an AFC boyfriend

16) what is a good way to build interest on a girl with a boyfriend

13. oh man... I have something to tell you here. There are a lot of ways to do it and to be sneaky about it. But if you really want the kiss to mean something you have to make sure she's curious about you and would like to kiss you. Or you can make her FEEL like she wants to kiss you.
There's one powerful technique you can use - when you sit by the girl and she's by your side, two of you are talking, just keep looking straight and not at her, and talk to her with your lips only. If you're standing face to face with her, keep looking over her shoulder, and talk with your lips only. This makes her look at your lips all the time when you talk and the more she looks the more she'll want to kiss you. That's a good technique if you want to put a girl in a sexual trance, but that's completely different story. A good example of "lip talk" is how brad pitt does it. Notice how he moves his lips when he talks.

ok, moving on.

14. The only good phone tip there is is to just keep talking like you're talking to her in person. It doesn't matter if it's phone or not, she's still a woman and wants you to be the man. The other option is to not talk over the phone at all, unless you give her directions to your house. My phone is on silent 99.5% of the time and I don't pick up when girls call. Texting is the way to go in most cases.

15. How can you deal with such girl... I prefer not to deal with such girls at all... She has her own reasons to be with an AFC boyfriend. See, different qualities are valued in guys when they're being looked at as a relationship material, instead of just a sex buddy. She might like him because he literally belongs to her, he's not going to cheat on her, and she can trust him,etc.,etc. Most girls are FINE with guys like that. The girls that aren't fine with AFCs boyfriends are a little more alpha than the majority, so they look for a guy that has some characteristics of a true dominant man and can control her alpha character, which in turn makes her feel like a real woman. There ain't many guys like that, so someone has to settle down for chumps ;) This is very common in America.

ok,#16. Good way is to make her feel like she's met someone extraordinary(you) and suck her in your reality so hard that she'll do anything. If you can make her experience that - she will feel very uneasy with her current boyfriend because of HUGE contrast. That's when you come in again.

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I'm going to give you only 4 basic questions ;)

9) How to suck the girl inside your reality, engaging her emotionally?

10) Whats a good delivery for ESP routines?

11) What to do if a girl flakes on you?

12) I know that my girl is lying to me, what should I do?

9. Very good question. I'll be covering that in depth in my book.
Your reality has to be something truly unique and most importantly - have space for her. If you wanna suck her in - you gotta have some room. All of it is done by having inner calmness and still talking to her.
This really isn't a technique, it's a physical feeling that you sense and can bring back again and again when you need.

The truly explosive mixture is when you have your true dominant self together, including bodylanguage, and you familiar with the feeling of sucking others into your reality. That's when you just take the girl's hand and go home together without saying anything, and she knows that it's the best thing that has ever happened to her.

10. Don't know what a ESP routine is, not a big fan of "robot, step-by-step" seduction :wink:

11. Oh man,if you're at the stage right now when you can't really let it go, then just "burn the gasoline"... What I mean by that is you don't let it go when she flakes, you stay pissed off and mad and then in a couple of minutes your sympathy for the girl turns into "Why the hell did I like her in the first place, she did THIS to me." And you calm down and don't call her back. If she calls you back - tells you how she made you feel and what you think about her now.

12. Lying about what?

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6) What to do if you screw up when she give you LMR?

7) What to do if SHE Freezes YOU out

8 ) Day Game VS Night Game; How to tweak your game for different settings
6. The best way to get over LMR is to take all of your clothes off and put your cock into her hand. It works everytime.

7. What do you mean by that?

8. It's all the same, but during the day girls don't have a bitch shield because they're running errands or working or whatever. They aren't going to the club already assuming that different chumps will approach them. So use that to your advantage. The best advice is to be normal and not to run any weird "pick-up artist" stuff on her, she might misunderstand your "sophisticated" game :wink:

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Just making these up from the top of my head:

1) What do you do when you're put in the "friend" zone?

2) How do you respond to a woman who gives you a compliment?

3) What is the most overused opener?

4) What's an example of good bodylanguage?

5) How do you lower a bitch shield?
1. Use the girl to your advantage ;)

2. Say "Thanks" and wink at her.

3. The most overused and the most effective is "Hey, what's going on?"

4. Eh... every man has his own unique body-language that he can improve on. If I show you examples and they're not your "type" then everything goes wrong.

5. You can tell her straight up to stop talking to you like that and that you're just "being friendly", you can turn around and leave, you can do many things depending on what you want the outcome to be.

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The book is going to be very much different from what is being taught right now in the seduction industry, but again - what is being taught right is for those who want MEDIOCRE results.

I have spent a lot of time looking over what the seduction scene in America is offering right now, I looked over most seminars of the top leading "gurus" in the community and it seems like most guys that teach seduction right now aren't on the high enough level
This a pretty Bold claim saying that you are above most of the top gurus. Im very interested as to how you would describe your style as from the answers you have given there doesn't seem to be much congruence. So I will add a question to the list.

19. How would you prevent the appearence of being fake or staged to both women you approach and keep the congruence for the day 2 and further.


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Her freeze out just like yours would acts as a punishment. She thinks that without her you won't be having a good time otherwise it wouldn't be much point freezing you out. Just make sure she knows you are not bothered by the freeze out, either through observation or her recieving information ( from you or someone else) that you are still out rocking the world. Mix some jealousy into this and it works like a charm.

Then when she gives you a call or however she ends her freeze out , the natural reaction would be 'wooohooo' and just go back to how things were. Before this though by you continuing a freeze out she will learn that she cant just do a freeze out on you without losing out herself.

This way the freeze out is dealt with and she will think twice before doing it again.

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The book is going to be very much different from what is being taught right now in the seduction industry, but again - what is being taught right is for those who want MEDIOCRE results.

I have spent a lot of time looking over what the seduction scene in America is offering right now, I looked over most seminars of the top leading "gurus" in the community and it seems like most guys that teach seduction right now aren't on the high enough level
This a pretty Bold claim saying that you are above most of the top gurus. Im very interested as to how you would describe your style as from the answers you have given there doesn't seem to be much congruence. So I will add a question to the list.

19. How would you prevent the appearence of being fake or staged to both women you approach and keep the congruence for the day 2 and further.
The claim is bold because I have an example of me coaching a guy in Boston for three months and having that guy compete with I guess a pretty popular "guru" named Sinn and tear him to shreds.


19. You prevent it by simply not being fake. The first thing I tell to people is that techniques are just used as сrutches for the time where you aren't sure what to say or to do, and they only make up very little of your overall conversation/behavior. The other part of you, which is real you, is what makes girls attracted to you, whereas techniques are just filler. Each time you rely on your true male character to get with the girl, it grows stronger and stronger. The more it grows the less techniques you use and the more powerful you become. A point comes where you start glowing with your power and that's when crazy things really start happening to you.

I'll add this - if you're trying to get something from women by conveying something you're not, in the longrun you'll end up in a place where you didn't want to be initially. You will not like the person you have become.

Remember, doing 100 approaches and trying your chances with those girls is FAR more complicated than spotting the one girl you really would like to be with that evening and actually getting her in your warm bed.

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Well you didn't get round to my question on what style you would describe your game as, so I read some of your blogs and your website. After Insulting Mystery specifically and generally as you put it 'those guys that teach magic, “pick-up lines”, social dynamics and other unnecessary crap to get with women' you called it natural game. Some of then this topic were with solutions that invovle stuff people like Dicarlo , Deangelo and Asian Playboy have written about yet you call it original. Your technique for dealing with LMR; do you know who once suggested that? And who is this mystery apprentice that competed with sinn and tore him to shreads?

Sorry if this sounds like a rant, well I guess it kind of is. :D

Edit: Was a tense error.

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