does anyone have any non opinion openers (opinion opener eg: can i ask your opinion on something)..just incase someone didn't kno lol. I seems that now a days a lottt of people are using opinion or question openers on girls. Can anyone think of any NON QUESTION or NON OPINION openers ?

"Hey, you guys seem cool so I thought I'd come over and say hi."
Great honest opener. I use it all the time. Opinion openers, I find hard to stay congruent with. I'm not the kind of guy who asks opinions when I don't need them and such a subtle detail of pickup such as opening a set is nothing that you need to tell a lie to do.

hey try this, it always works for me, when i approach a HB or a group HB I walk to where they are and start looking to the floor pretending that I lost something. the group evently would spread, then look at the HB or the target if there is a group and tell her close to her ear that you have lost a SMILE. When she smile, tell her that's your smile and that you needed back. put your finger on your lips, and tell her, "that smile belong her"smiling at her. then after that you know the drill.

No offense cyberpower, but I REALLY don't like that opener. While you're waiting for the group to react, you're letting your own nervousness or AA set in, so you'll probably blow it. There's a reason we have the 3 second rule. Also, you run the risk of everyone in the set thinking you're a creep.

My style is usually to open direct. Either with something like Fact's opener, or with a compliment (works well in day game). Try to find a genuine compliment and something she doesn't hear too often though, otherwise it's too AFC.

For day game, you can always ask the time, or ask for directions--makes transitioning harder, but you're past the approach with no risk.

For club game, maybe try something along the lines of "Did you see that guy who just walked by? He was totally checking you out!". Transition to talking about how girls are better at being subtle when looking at guys. Field tested with mild success--opened about 80%. The 10s don't always open, but the 7s and 8s do.

I'd just throw something at the girl.

Her- what the hell!
Me- We're playing catch, don't be boring.

Or you could flip her off. I thought that one was fun.

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"Hey, could you blow us out?"
"..?"
"You know, it's when a couple of guys start to talk to a random grup of girls and they say someting rude like 'we're having a conversation over here'"

Not saying this opener will work, since the group might simply comply and blow you out... but it's an opener^^

LOL! Just make sure you don't actually hit the girl (at least not too hard).

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My favourite opener is the following:

If you are in a bar or pub:

Me:"Hi, do you want something to drink?"
Hb: "Ok..."
Me:"Well, lend me 5 euros..."
- She may accept ot nor, it doesn't mind-
Me:"Heeyyy! I know youuu!"
Hbs: "Noo, you don't..."
Me:" Yeahh, you just don't recognize me because I'm dressed..."
Hb: "Haha...
"
Notice that this opener contains the three charactericitcs of a an alpha seducer: humor (it's obvious all that is a joke), originality and non-submissive character

I got one I jus tried this out on the fly last night and I feel it was pretty successful I call it the cleopatra opener I dunno if theres 1 similar but hey I haven't read anything like this yet well here it goes....
well I wus at the club and I notice me this fly honey she a 8.5 to 9 so I tried to find out her name which wu easy coz gurls always calling each other so I get itits rachel. so I go up to her and this is how it went...
me- hey rachel
her- yes
me- I don't know if you remember me but we have met before...
her- really? I don't remember...
me-yeah we have we met at such and such club and I tol you that the next time we meet ill have a nickname for you...
her- oh yeah wats that?
me- well I decided on cleopatra... do you know y?
her- coz she was sexy as hell and always got what she wanted?
me- no (neg her if you want ) try again...
her- coz she seduced ceasar?
me- hell no, I see you not goin anywhere so ill tell you
her- ok go on
me- I named you cleopatra coz you have the same characteristics she was most well known and revered for...
her- o yeah? and what's that
me- she was very well known for her exquisitly beautifull nose
after I blew her away with dat she jus couldn't stop talkin we had fun the whole night because she was chillin wit sum boys I kept getting cockblocked the rest of the night but I manage to leave with a number close.. so what do you guys think the secret here is to notice something about her that she seems insecure about and prey on that she had a long nose but it wus quite nice hehe sorry for the long post.. enjoy boys

that sounds a little strange complimenting her on her nose but still a good cat string thing

alphamale funny lines, have you tested them yet?

Here's one to do with a wing. It's absolutely nothing special, infact you can even surprise your AFC-wing with it. Just say "Lets play a game!" They'll say "What game?" You say, "It's called 'Have you met (your wing's name)". Then you tap the closest girl on the shoulder and smile while saying, "Hey have you met..." and then walk off. I think it's a great way to start the night getting your comfort built up and if the girls don't like it, tell them they're rude and leave them. But like I said, it's nothing special, I'm not suggesting it as a routine. It's just a very simple and basic 'non-opinion' opener.

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Simple and works great.

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Here's something that I use. I won't say exaclty what it is but heres the general outline:

Aproach, acuse target of being someone who looks like a girl who did something crazy to you at a party or mall or place you were recently at, have a backup story to go with it.

Sometimes they deny and then you neg and tell them with "so you aren't a very daring person are you?" and go with it.

Or they might play along or even think they actually did something and start role playing or talking about how they "did this or that to some random guy at some time."

I've feild tested this over 40 times and it has worked great with all of them unless they are really shy or have a boyfriend they are in love with.