Hey, alright, let's get right to it then. There is a girl from my High School that rides the bus with me. She's cool and all, and has shown many IOIs. I've demonstrated higher value, used negs and c and f, kino, the whole deal. The only thing is she already has a bf, and I haven't had much experience in BF destroyers. So here's the thing, she's told me I'm screwable material and she'd date me and all, plus, she's always saying how her bf is gay and stuff. So, help me out here guys, what should be my next step towards this? And if I need a BF destroyer, help me out.

Thanks in advance,
Suave

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I do not know why you even need them with all of that.

Just ignore that she has a boyfriend, invite her to hang out with you and your friends. If she brings up her boyfriend when you do this, use c&f and tell her it is her loss.

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Double Your Dating by DD
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http://www.freewebs.com/xfman/
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Yeah that was my idea, just wanted to get some other opinions on this. Alot of other people end up in her friend zone and I'm trying to avoid that.

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YEah mate do what valence has recomended, if she resist because she is "commited" just say s that a relation is realation not an slavery, that she has the right to do whteva she wants, thats a Great BF ocation Destroyer also a Great Neg cause Hb´s love to think they r independent and stuff, and also a great Dhv beacuse if U play it right she will feel that u are really treating her as a Person. And if u Add some NLP It will be awsome. Here is an Example that actually happened.

Sovnarkom: SO What, AT 6 o´clock at Starbucks, im not waiting for U a single minute, U know u should be glad I Agreed To see U.

Hb: Lol; Hey, Sov, I have not said yes yet, YOu know i have a Boyfriend .

Sovnarkom: Hey, lol, When did i talk about your Bf really im not intrested in your probblems. So Its at 6 o´clock.

Hb:I Would Like but im commited, (THis is the catch.)

Sovnarkom: OK as You wish i really thought U were a Strong Girl, U Know
a Bfship is not slavery, I thought u were no ones slave, to be commited is not to be tied with a chain on your leg, U should liberate (point at urslef).

Hb: im not a SLave.

Sovnakrom: So, its at Starbucks at 6 o´clock, Dont Forget it.

Hb: OK, Sov, see ya,But Keep It down.

Sovnarkom: Ok Slave (LOl) see ya

Hb: im not a slave.

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Messing with women´s feminist perception of liberty, can be very handy and if u add to this Womens Obsession with committement you can work a really good routine, specially in Bf casess.

YOu SHould Contrast THeir Perception of liberty with commitment.


Hope You Like It Mate. Cheers

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Nice, you even used a Ross Jeffries technique in there haha. I'll ignore the bf part then and continue with my advances.

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This is the one that works for me like all the time...

HB: I have a boyfriend

PUA: I'm glad that you're straight, If you were a lesbian I would prolly be hitting on you

HB: (CRACKS UP)

PUA: Let me ask you something, Look at me, and tell me, do you think I would make a good boyfriend?

HB: Yes/I don't know/ Maybe

PUA: You see, I bet you your boyfriend is like the greatest boyfriend in the world, he probably calls you 5 times a day to make sure you're ok, to see where you are and with who, buys you roses and chocolates.

HB: Not really...

PUA: Stop hiding it... You guys probably make a great couple, and with no doubt will be married in a couple of months and have handsome kids

HB: I'm not even thinking of marriage

PUA: Yes, you are,

**** ALL OF THAT WAS TO DEVALUATE HER BOYFRIEND'S IMAGE****

**** BUT IT KEEPS GOING *******

PUA: Anyway, getting back to my question,I think i would make a terrible boyfriend

HB: Why you say that?

PUA: I wouldn't call my girlfriend five times a day, I would call her ten (isn't that sweet) *** she laughs**** ok, eleven.... Then I would make fun of her friends and have her cook for me, and finally I would break up with her on Valentine's day

**** ALL PLAYFUL TONE BUDDY *****

HB: HAHAHAH, you're so mean

PUA: Yes, I am

***** HERE COMES THE TRANSITION TO SEDUCTION *****

PUA: So, let's go to eat, you can bring your boyfriend if you want i would love to meet him

HB: really?

PUA: no

HB: hahaha

PUA: we are going to eat, as friends, but of course you're paying

***** THIS IS SOLID, THE "aS FRIENDS" DRIVES GIRLS MAAAAAD ABOUT YOU ******


Ok, you have just stolen my secret thing, coooool

Hope it helps

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That routine Romeo is brilliant!
I love every aspect of it.
It is probably the greatest BF destroyer I have ever seen. And it doesnt even use creepy NLP!

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I think we have covered all the routines in there.

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Nice Romeo7 i like the aprt in which u say : Thats Great Thx MAte Brilliant

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Romeo your a genius. I saw your routine posted as an approach before and it works better than the other opinion openers I use. But I'll have to add the BF destroyer to my arsenal as well.

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“You is a fluid concept”— Hitch

as soon as she says that. i'd say. " yeah right. whatever actions speak louder than words."

she's playing you dude. She's in high school. she can probly tell you are attracted to her. I'd shut her out for a day and see what she says.

thats just me tho.

on another side note. i like the NLP and the other guys way too.

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xfman kudos! good post on BF destroyers. Yeh i agree, i think the whole visualization part is important, and then go on about what your friends do for girls, go on about what you do for girls and than be like so has your bf done this and that, and shell say no, be like wow.. really? ..... that’s interesting, anyway so ... make her think about her bf in a shady light so on..

this all happens in isolation, the bf can be used for shit tests and to block you ie bitch shield so calibrate make sure you know when its being used and how. Im very curious as how NLP would work in this, ill try the ross J thing and see where it ends up. The whole idea with boyfriends is that you need to brake down her defenses somehow, and when she’s exposed go for the kill. I’m still learning this concept so ill report when i make some headway.

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I have seduced so many girls with boyfriends... It's almost like if it was my specialization, I'll try to put it in short for you

and REALLY recommend that you guys over the link Xfman sent, it's awesome!

Ok, let's break it down in steps, yes I'm very methodic

1. Not competing with her boyfriend
This lowers her defenses, you're not hitting on her

2. Over encouraging her relationship
I mean, REALLY SUPER-OVER-ENCOURAGE her relationship, in a way that you set up the boyfriend to meet "standards" that he doesn't meet.

3. DHV
When you OVER ENCOURAGE her relationship, look at my example above, what you've just done is LOWER her bf's image, then you DHV, so she sees you as an option (remember, she MUST see you as an option she can ALSO enjoy, not as a pain in the ass that will cause her to end up her relationship)

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^^^could you explain how you do that exactly romeo? i get what you are saying but i think an example of each would do good for me and future readers.

this is a huge thing for girls to say to try and get rid of someone, or a shit test kinda.

thanks much and big ups.

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Sure man,

1. Not competing with her boyfriend

If she says something say like "He is so cute", you dont say "Ok got ya" with a long face, you say "coool" as if nothing happened

You are someone she can also "enjoy", cause if you make her believe that in order to have you, she must break up with her boyfriend, that's really a pain in the ass

get it? nod if you said yes, if not, read again

2. Over encouraging her relationship

If you try to bring her bf down, her defense levels will go up, this is a NO NO, you want her defense levels to be down

When you over encourage her relationship, what you're really doing is SETTING UP HER BOYFRIEND TO MEET STANDARDS THAT HE CANT MEET, and basically, "blowing him out"

For example:

Im sure your boyfriend makes you really happy, and that you guys are the most perfect couple ever, he does things like calling you ten times a day just to check who youre and with who, he makes sure that you get to places in time, he would ditch any friend just to come see you, and yeah... you guys soon will be married


see what i just did? i over exaggerated the image of a perfect boyfriend and obviuosly most of bfs dont do this, youre devaluating her bf's image.

3. DHV

It's important to learn how to DHV

The way I do it, I show that i "get" it by using irony and humor

"I think I would make a horrible boyfriend, I would prolly call you not 10, but 15 times a day, make of your friends, fights with your parents and break up with you on valentine's day"

SEE? Humor and irony

but im showing her that i "get" it

and im DHVing

4. More flirt and flirt

Hope it's clearer now, look at the other examples too man

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