I have been thinking and reading some articles and posts and I think I may have figured out my problem with HB9s and HB10s and my approaching them. I thought about why I was so afraid and each event I could remember it was the same situation. In each situation they were on the dance floor, dancing or very close to it and dancing. Most of the time I would see drunk AMOGs swagger up to them and try a crazy dance move or try and get there attention and fail. So next time I am at the bar I think I will scan abit better for the HB10s and 9s not on the dance floor.

That said is there any advice or tips on how to pick up a HB9 or 10 on the dance floor. I know you need to make eye contact, but most of the time eye contact is quick. Is there anything too do keep eye contact longer. I really don't wanna approach them from behind or the side and start grinding with them.. I have had to save too many girls from guys like that. Any advice will be awesome.

Give a 3 second rule. Look, open, and approach. approach them from the front. girls love it when guys know how to freak from the front. Approaching from the back they can't see you well and it will make you look like a darkstalker. Open with a "Hey looks like the party's over here!" this is a cocky funny it will make her smile and than freak that bitch.

hmmm, this may be just my inscecurity talking but to get eye contact you gotta be decent looking, to have girls dance with you you gotta be decent looking AND dance pretty well.

I mean, HB8's and 9's know they can get any guy, so you gotta be in the higher league when it comes to looks.

Whenever I go and dance with 9's and 10's, they smile and slowly go away or turn their backs to me.

damm!

I wrote a long thing on another thread what-to-do-when-the-music-is-too-loud-t ... jay#135654 I would recommend reading it im not sure how useful it is but it does work for me!

What I typically do is make strong eye contact and make sure not to break. However, I don't approach then. I keep an eye on her and when she heads for the bar or bathroom I go make eye contact a second time. At this point she should remember the guy who looked at her but didn't flinch when she looked at him (like most AFCs would do) so you will have made just enough of an impression on her to open her. Right after the second eye contact I'll walk up and open her and it usually works pretty well. Granted, I am a pretty good looking guy so it's a little easier to get their attention while they're on the dance floor to make eye contact.