or does learning to seduce hot babes create a new dilemna?

I realized that most of us want to learn how to seduce hot babes because we consider them higher than us and it would be an achievement to conquer them. That may not be the only reason we join the community but at least for me it was the main reason. I want to get to the point where I can have any woman I want.

Its like we hold them on some high pedestal and we want to reach their level. But as soon as we reach their level (or beyond) and learn to seduce them and are able to have any girl we want, they become less valuable to us. They may even become less human, just machines following a set of rules they aren't even aware of.

Now our goal is no longer to seduce an HB but to find someone who is able to resist our seduction. Someone human. Someone independent of the laws we have mastered.

Is it just me or does learning to seduce women make those women less desirable and no longer worth seducing?

I've been thinking about this a lot. And I think its one of the things that really stops me from following PUA full blast. I'm a hopless romantic (as my name implies). I love the little things. I don't want to "know what to do" to get any girl. That takes the fun out of it. I later came to the conclusion that I'm more scared of being a social robot. So I think there's a thin line between the two

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It gives you an opportunity to have standards based on things other than just looks, thus allowing you to live a more enriched and fulfilled life.

I think what I realized was that it does improve your life by allowing you to interact with more people with confidence but it also brings me to the conclusion that you can never get to a point where you can seduce any woman you meet. Because there will always be women out there that will not go by the rules you have studied. And these new women become the ones on the pedestal you try to reach. Maybe you will learn new techniques to reach them and maybe you won't. The point is there will always be more to learn, and the art of seduction is definitely a skill that should be learned, but I think it is beneficial to know when to stop trying to find new ways of seducing and just live in the moment and see what happens. Seduce in moderation. Or you become a seducing robot and life loses meaning.

And I'm just glad I realized this before I got too far into it. All it took was to see this one girl follow my lead perfectly just as I had planned it. It really hit me right then just how careful you need to be.

In many ways we are all machines

I don't know if they become less desirable, because I still love women. Whether its easy women (thanks to the stuff I've learned) to the women who are still unattainable.

So for me at least they don't become less desirable.

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yes. this is all true. the challenge of getting a girl to fall for you is what gives them value to us. If there is no challenge, we lose the attraction.

just think about all the one night stands you had, did you ever want to fuck them again after that? let alone hold a conversation with them? hell no.

my ideal girl would be someone that can seduce me while i am in the process of seducing her.

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