ok women confuse the hell out of me, here is my situation (sorry its a bit long, but its worth it):

i met this chick last week (wednesday night) at a dance club. we danced, had good convo for how loud it was in there, and i got her to bounce to other locations with me. I was playing it off casual and non-needy, so she asks for my number which shows some strong intrest. by the end of the night she was calling me badass and everything. things went perfect because i kept running into aquaintances throughout the night so it looked like i was popular. i didnt kiss her that night because she was with her friend the whole time. so she tells me she wants to hang out this weekend. i tell her ok i will call u, and we hug (a big hug) and then part ways

so the weekend rolls around, i call her and we go out saturday night. again she brings the friend. we have excellent convo, she gives IOI's, we bounce to a club. at the club we dance very close and im able to isolate her and finally plant the kiss. we made out a lot the whole night and she even lets her friend leave with another guy which shows she trusts me. At the end of the night, when we get to my car, she tells me she really wants to set something up - just the two of us. so i tell her i find out my work schedule tomorrow (sunday) and i will call her. she says ok and seems happy with that

we had a great time both nights, good convo, good kissing, much attraction between us. So i call her sunday night, no answer. I called her again monday and left a simple message like "give me a call back so we can set something up this week". Looking back, calling again on monday may have been a mistake, but she REALLY showed intrest in me saturday night. Its now thursday and i havent heard from her, but have i called again. WTF?????

this really hurt my self confidence, but how could it be me? The only things i can think of why shes doing this are:
1) i made the mistake of telling her friend im going back to school in the fall and maybe the friend told her that. this could make the target feel like its not worth going any further... My school is only 1.5 hours away tho

2) there is something mentally wrong with her (lol)

So what should i do? what should i say if she does call me back (which i doubt). i dont have text messaging, and she knows this. im totally confused, help!

thanks

Honestly what I'd recommend, is giving her a call from a different phone, now that it has been a few days. This enables you to do a few things; you can get an idea of whether she's screening you so that you stop being paranoid about it, cause that's probably part of what you're thinking right now, you can talk to her if she is screening you and by connecting with her again you'll overpower any silly reasons she may have had, you talk to her and reconnect in case she had just gotten busy and forgotten to call you back (this does happen to all sorts of people all the time). If she doesn't answer, then don't leave a message, just give her a call again later, unless she isn't worth trying to get a hold of.

Now, in the future, I'd recommend you stay away from leaving the simple message that tells her to call you back. You can totally HINT to a girl that she should call you back, but don't outright tell her unless you've got really good rapport built, because it tends to get a lot of girls that aren't into "being told what to do" irked (yeah, this IS a stupid girl thing). In this case I would have said something like, "Hey, I just called to let you know I got my schedule for work. I'm pretty busy, but we can probably get together sometime later this week." Now she knows you've got the info you guys were waiting for in order to make plans and she knows you're busy (DHV), but you're interested in finding some time later in the week to hang out. She's more likely to call you back now, cause she's got an idea what's up, but you didn't get right to business and you left enough mystery that she's curious and is gonna want to get answers to any questions she has, like when and where.

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ok thats good advice. i never really looked at it that way with the voicemail thing. thanks for the tips. should i call her from a different phone today?

If you haven't in at least 2 days, then yeah.

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could give me some tips on what to say to her? i dont want to sound stalkerish or AFC.

thanks!!

ok so i decided to just call her. she answers and says "hello?" so i say "hello" and shes like "can i help you.....?" LOL

so i said yes you can help me and told her who i was. she seemed excited like "oh hiii!!" but it couldve been fake. She then told me she was on the phone with her boss and she would call me back. so i paused for a second then said "are you really gonna call me back?" (tone of my voice was kinda like 'if ur bullshitting, just tell me and we can be done with this') but she said yes. i was trying to see if she was bullshitting. if she was, all i need is for her to tell me what the problem is so i can move on and stop doubting myself

we'll see if she calls me back

ok, a half an hour later and she hasnt called me back. its over (what a psycho imo)

thanks for the advice tho!

fucking flakes.

lol indeed

GUESS WHAT

i ran into her tonite (friday) at the bars.

i honestly didnt care at this point, so i just said "so what was it...?" and she says "what??" so i say "what was it that made u not call me?" i was being AFC at this time because i had already made up my mind i was done with her, so it didnt matter. all i wanted to know was what she didnt like about me. so she goes into this story about being forgetful and having a stressful week. i wasnt having it, and she could tell. somehow she clinged to me after that. i went bar hopping with her tonite just for the hell of it. we danced and made out a lot. it seemed like the more i pushed away from her, the more she came. A few times i said "i hate you" with a smirk; that really drawed her in. She said she wants to hang out sunday. i'll take it with a grain of salt. i already told myself im done with her, so its not a big deal if she flakes on me again. I have absolutely no trust in her.

I also got in with the best guy friend of hers. he told me all about her, about how shes always on the move and it takes a lot to hold her attention. he also told me im better than any other guy shes been with, and i got his approval. They have been really good friends for 5 years and he is in his late 30's so nothing to worry about there (as far as him wanting her).

we will see if this psycho calls me she did have a very guilty attitude the whole night...

lol holy shit. i'm impressed on the turn around. so how exactly did you push her away that made her chase you some more? just out of curiosity. it's funny how being brutually honest can melt a bitches panties.

anyways im proud. this is good shit. stories like this make me cream my pants.

for future references-don't succomb to her so easily when she chases. tease her when she chases just to make it a little bit harder the next.

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i just did all sorts of negs and indicators of dis-intrest. i didnt use anything offensive or anything about her physical appearance.

it was funny tho, i looked straight at her and said "i hate you." and then she started kissing me. a buddy of mine at the bar (who works there) saw that and cracked up.

Ok couple of things!! For those guys whom have their pictures as their avatar, your just asking to been scene by a girl you may know and blow your whol game.

In response to your post congrats that things worked out!! Thats what sux about girls, you have to reallllly act like you dont want them. As style puts it
"If you want to get the girl, you have to risk losing her."

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cool man, but understand that you've missed a major opportunity with her and women think that that isn't good. Basically you should've taken her from the club right when you agreed to meet up to again to fuck. Doesn't matter where - even to a park late at night and banged her. Kiss is nothing.

Once you had sex with her, you are in control. There are other ways to have control over her before sex, but its too much to talk about now.

now, this is little obvious here - but if you decide on getting together again after a night of hard-core makeout at the club, then it means you two are going to fuck. And if you sugarcoat things telling yourself that maybe you will have sex or maybe you won't, she knows for sure that two of you will and it is very predictable to her. So she wants a so called "miracle to happen". But that's another story. The point is - you lose her interest if you don't follow up the same night. That's why I usually tell guys not to make out too much with girls if you can't have sex with after 10 mins of makeout.

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