good job otatop man

sounds like a solid day game

Well guys, you win some and you lose some.

Just today, I was out shopping for clothes. Needed a new pair of shoes - mine were getting ratty, and weren't that stylish to begin with. As I get into line for checkout, I see an attractive young brunette woman checking out her new bag in the mirror. HB9, by my estimation - a bit tougher to tell during the day, as she wasn't prepped for a night out. The opener was easy enough, got my first gentle neg in, talked a bit about the trip she was getting ready for. The IOIs were all there, and I handled it all pretty well. It took me a moment to place her faded Russian accent, and damned if I don't know a smattering of the language myself. As I prepare to pull out the linguistic cred, I can tell I'm at least two moves ahead of this girl. I can see the number close already, if not more.

Then from out of nowhere, I hear the harbinger of unbridled terror. Gabriel's Trumpet has sounded. The world is at an end. Out of the corner of my eye, I can see the instrument of my demise approaching enthusiastically, and between the expression on HB9's face and my own cockroach-like sense of danger, I know that the set is blown and completely unrecoverable.

That's right. My mom apparently thought it was a good day to go shopping as well. You might as well have shot that pretty young lady with pepper spray, as fast as she bolted.

Mom realized her faux pas pretty quickly, and was mortified. She agreed - Russian HB9 was definitely cute. Some things are just flat-out deal killers, no matter how good you get at this game. That's what I get for visiting my home town so often.

LMAO!! otatop's story cracks me up, i was thinking it was going to her b/f or something approaching..turns out to be his mom..lol...too bad you couldn't have somehow gamed with moms there

Whehehehe ! I like your style!

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I appreciate people posting their ideas, but it is a waste of time to post things that have not been field tested.

Given the right scenario, I could have worked with a boyfriend. But if somebody here can come up with "I'm shopping for clothes with my mom" game, then I'd be more than happy to found your new religion. Meh, comedy of errors and all that. Should have known better - mom can't resist a sale.

Hahahah, I had the same thing happen in college. I had sat down to chat up this cute little freshman at the student union when my mom, who worked for the university, came up behind me. Talk about a way to bust a set at light speed..... I stuttered a bit, then managed to mutter something alone the lines of "I hope this isn't too forward for just meeting, but meet my mom."

What if your mom is really hot? Would that have been a DHV or DLV? lol

Everything up to negging sounds good. You don't have to neg during the day, her bitch shields are way down because no guys really approach her during the day because they don't have balls. A neg is a way to disqualify yourself essentially, but since you already came up and said "you are really cute" it would be incongruent because you already said that you wanted to meet her. A neg also shows value, which is one of the reasons you use them, but approaching a girl direct during the day (if she is alone) shows enough value in itself. After that, you can run a quick attraction routine. Attraction is built so fast during the day, then you can go directly into comfort. You can skip qualification because like above "you already said that you're interested in her". Hope this helps, it you have any questions, just ask.

~Maverick

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New to this, but thought I'd share something I tried recently. Would love some feedback. Sorry it's kind of long.

I was sitting outside in Washington, DC (in a park/ on a park bench) reading a book while waiting for some friends of mine who were coming to pick me up and running late.

Very attractive girl sits down one bench from me - mind you, there are about 8 benches here and NOBODY else sitting down. She kind of chose one close enough to be w/in earshot but far enough away to ignore me if she wants to. She gives a quick glance over at me once or twice w/in a minute or two so I say what the hell, it's on. Yes, I was nervous 'cause she was damn good looking and I don't really do this much?? But will be doing it all the time now!

Had NO IDEA what to open with (see the 'new to this' first line of this post), but somehow this popped into my head and then out my mouth.

Quick bit of info - I was reading 'Dark secrets of NASA', and figured I'd tie it into the conversation after opening since it was my only prop to set me apart from avg. Joe.

Walked over to her w/ the book in my hand but so she couldn't see the cover. I sort of bent over and whispered 'I though I should warn you, it's bad luck to sit alone' - and winked. She gave me a totally curious look and of course asked 'Why? - why is it unlucky' - she smiled a little too. BTW she had a cute Russian accent which I LOVE. I told her that the universe strives for balance, park benches included and pointed out that all the things around us were in even #'s (yeah, they weren't, but I only pointed to and showed her the things that were)... She laughed (but still def. had her guard up). I knew I had to move out of cute/funny/slightly weird and into more grounded/ real. I asked her if she liked politics (in DC almost everyone does). Ha - she said no! Shit - ok...I told her I was reading 'Dark Secrets of Nasa' and mentioned that it was questioning the politics behind space exploration blah blah blah and that I also didn't like politics (I guess I was demonstrating value at this point)? I went on to say that there was a lot of talk in this book about certain things like ESP, human nature, etc. I asked her if she believed that your subconscious came through in everything you did even if you weren't aware of it. She said she didn't know - so I offered to show her. I ran a version of the cube I modified (actually it's pretty diff since I don't want some girl saying - hey, I know that one - that's BS)! She LOVED it and totally opened up.
Told her my friends were about to pick me up and I had to go but wanted to stay in touch...yup - got her #.

And yeah, I felt like a champ even though it was just one time!!

Any thoughts or ways to improve?

I have a question. How do you do negs during day game? What are some good examples of such? I see people are saying they are unnecessary but I'm sure they might be useful in some circumstances. Also, how do you apply push/pull into it (examples please)? I understand how you have to make yourself seem hard to get in order to attract them more... how do you pull that off when you're approaching a girl on the sidewalk and just started by expressing interest? Doesn't that make you less interesting to them because they think they already have you?

So I'm total newbie to this but here's one I did on the girl I mentioned above...

She was smoking a cig when I started talking to her...after about a min of chit-chat (see above) I laughed and asked her why she held the cig the way she did - kind of like how a man would hold a cig. I immediately followed with "because...you are oozing femininity otherwise...here let me show you how to hold that thing" and took her hand and cig and showed her - heck, I don't even remember what I showed her but she laughed.

I haven't tried the 'sidewalk approach' yet - mine was easier since she was already sitting (didn't have to get her to stop). I think the trick with a sidewalk approach is to just get her interested - it's not that the girl doesn't want to talk to guys (of course she does), it's that she doesn't want to stop and waste her time or end up stuck in a conversation with some weirdo. Throw something off-the-wall and interesting at her, then let her know you're going to leave the picture soon UNLESS she wants you to stay (and she'll let you know with IOI and body language).





="Captain Tightpants"]I have a question. How do you do negs during day game? What are some good examples of such? I see people are saying they are unnecessary but I'm sure they might be useful in some circumstances. Also, how do you apply push/pull into it (examples please)? I understand how you have to make yourself seem hard to get in order to attract them more... how do you pull that off when you're approaching a girl on the sidewalk and just started by expressing interest? Doesn't that make you less interesting to them because they think they already have you?[/quote]

Sidewalk approach... Position yourself walking infront of the girl(s), then slow down and end up next to her/them. Run your opener and keep walking with them. You don't have to stop them yet.

You can use the same negs during daygame that you would use otherwise.

What I love to say is "You have some sleeping sand in your eye" .


Push/Pull:
PUA: You are so childish..., I think I love you! ...Will you marry me? (Pull)
*Blahblahblah*
PUA: Or wait... How much money do you have? *Blahblah* Shit, I want a rich girl (Push)

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I find the best way to approach a girl in the day is by asking their oppinion while at the same time making them feel safe ive used many techniques saying i think your cute or i couldnt help but notice you but guys unless your ridiculously good looking a girl will laugh and put her guard up right away

heres an example of what i do say while wearing a hat
Me: hey me and my friends were talking my new hat now im in a rush so i have to go in two seconds, does......this hat....make me look gay?
Girls:ha ha ha oh blah blah (they will al want to give their oppinion)

this begins the conversation and you do the negs to your target and prove yourself to be the alpha male then you get a wing to come break the group to get you and the target on your own then finish and close

sorry forgot to add if anyone want to give some constructive criticism and tightin my routine up go for it