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Johnny31
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dude you're like obi wan kenobi. i blieve somewhat in predestination theres a purpose for you having these skills, and purpose for you feeling the way you do now. take control of your life and figur out what combination of yourself and this "social robot" can work together to make you happy
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Sounds like you've built up an impressive skillset there. But to paraphrase Mystery, PU should enrich and enliven one, not become the be-all and end-all. Perhaps a lot of us guys see this stuff as the holy grail of life and happiness so we get to the top and then dont like the view. Maybe, you need some deeper meaning (perhaps some light metaphysics?) in your life and need to work on other areas (finance, career, creativity etc) that will ultimately supplement and benefit your pick up artistry. But DO NOT CAST ASIDE YOUR HARD WON SKILL SET and become a Christian fundamentalist or something! Come back at it from different angles and work on other areas or other styles to constantly evolve your game, sort of like the way Rafa Nadal works on different shots and styles of play in December, suffers a dip in form and then comes back a far better player during the summer slams.
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Having all this knowledge does not bother me; this isn't the problem. What does, though, is that in any situation I now know what needs to be done to achieve what result and I feel compelled to always go for attraction. I'll back this up with an example.

I went to a friend's barbecue where my sole purpose was to relax and take a breath. As soon as I saw the first pair of new tits, I knew I could either walk away with her number or not. So what does my robot brain do? Analyzes. 4-set: one pawn, one dude and a HB.

Instantly I knew I had to befriend her guy friend and how to achieve that with military precision: point my feet towards him, lock submissive eyes, calibrate his energy and get into some stupid role play ('we should totally start a clubbing business... I'll be the magician, you'll be the manager and we'll hook up with the hottest chicks in the place'). Then I had to occupy him with another chick to get 1:1 time with the target.

[Ace - to pawn] Hey, tell RandomDude that awesome story about what happened the other day!
[RandomDude] Yeah, go for it, maybe we'll let you get into our super exclusive club if you're cool enough!
[Pawn] <insert random story>

Any time now.... 3, 2, 1, here comes the IOI...

[HB] So... How did you get into magic?

No fireworks here. Traditional M3 #close.

But this isn't even the point. Even with my friends, I think about how I lock eye contact, how I speak and how I pause to deliver a particular story. Everything I say demonstrates value in some way or the other. I can either be the old me - a funny, self-depreciating loser, or a social robot. There's no in-between.

Maybe it's part of the process, maybe that's what finally internalizing all this material should feel like. Perhaps I'm making a big deal out of nothing. Have any of you had similar experiences?
I think this should go away if you develope some inner game, then you become the object of desire, your not just putting on an act, and get some hobbies, find somethings you enjoy doing and do theml.

I go cayaking, tricking, free climbing, american football and I do martial arts, it keeps me busy and ensures I don't get wrapped up in one thing like you seem to have done here.
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Ignorance is a bliss, as long as you don't want to become better than everyone else.
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That's rough. People say it's awesome, but too me it sounds like your losing the humanity inside of you. Emotions no longer exist: love is something you only see in movies and read about, butterflies in the stomach only happen to your girls, and you no longer define your success by being happy but how many pickups are successful.

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That's rough. People say it's awesome, but too me it sounds like your losing the humanity inside of you. Emotions no longer exist: love is something you only see in movies and read about, butterflies in the stomach only happen to your girls, and you no longer define your success by being happy but how many pickups are successful.
That's exactly it. Having the knowledge is awesome, but what happened when I took it too far is beyond shit.

I took the advice of some of the people in here (thanks guys) and took a chill pill. I hung out with my friends who aren't involved in pickup, rented a stupid video, I'm getting back into magic, I'm even looking forward to a date with a girl I didn't pick up in a bar.

It's better now, but... that voice is still there.

'Not their DOMINANT eye, stupid, lock the submissive one! Where are your feet pointing?! And for Christ's sake, SLOW DOWN and PAUSE while you speak, geez, you sound so AVERAGE...'

Who knows, maybe I'll never get rid of it. But it feels good to go against it sometimes, just out of spite.

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which one is the submissive eye btw? :D

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