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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:32 am 
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I was dancing with this girl at Bar Wild just hammered on Jagger Bombs and I pulled her in close so she could hear. I said you know I am really drunk and would like to take you home right now and have the wildest sex with you (I pause for a brief moment) but I would rather get your number right now and take you out sometime when I am not so drunk so I can get to know you better and see where it goes from there. The girl just melted and she got that sparkle in her eye. I don't know if it was the blunt honesty or what but it did seem to work. I am thinking about trying that one out tonight when I go to Rum Jungle. I will keep you guys updated.
I think that was a good line.
If you would've had somewhere to take her afterwards,
you already just helped neutralize last-minute resistance.
If you already did everything right, and she was totally into you,
that's all she needed to hear for you to take her home.

Guarantee it was all natural, on the fly, too.
Awesome thing to say, in my opinion.

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Out of all the girls in this bar you are the most beautiful (girls love that word) and I was wondering if I might be able to dance with you.
This sounds so AFC its not funny! I have no idea how that worked, unless she was giving you some serious IOI beforehand! Building compoft right away... It may have worked if you walked in with two girls arm in arm, and she eyeballed you the whole night. If you demonstrated that your a alpha male/leader of men that can protect her make her feel safe. If she really doesn't get that much attention, than saying that will sweep her off her feet and melt her. You should just go for the kiss close and make it a wild one while your at it ;).

But coming up to a 10 right away and saying that......... damn, get ready to do some serious DHV, and neg spikes!

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This is a concept that I find works both ways. I believe it's good to let a woman kno you're attracted to her (when she's an 8 or 7). Then you can neg a few times to make her work herself back in. Whatever the case, the word "Beautiful" is an aphrodisiac to women. Just don't say it to a 9 or 10 w/o taking her down a peg first!

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I think that for 8/9/10s, using curiosity and fascination would work better. something like..do u believe in magic spells? (take from mystery) and the likes. But I liked the second one. Gotta try it out some time

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how can this possibly work

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I would never say it......it would be something everyone else would of said.

But you know what if it works it works you know


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good advice


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I've been using "You're the hottest thing i've seen all day/ all week/ in the past twenty minutes" and "Woah! You're gorgeous! What's your name?" in a C&F way at work when on checkouts, in the past week, as a way to build direct confidence.
It is handy because she can't hang around long to see how AFC I really am. Unfortunately I very, very rarely get a hot babe who is alone to say this to. Perhaps one every 10 hours of straight cashier work.
I have had a very good reaction from one 7.5 who said i'd made her day and that I was her new favourite cashier. I also get many Blase' responses, mainly because I have little to follow up with, apart from "i'm Visionist, head of the trampoline department!". I should start following up with "But are you clever and funny too? If not, no deal!".
I've noticed that a girl I do this too will more often than not return to my till on another day and resume the conversation. Then I can test her on wether she remembers my name (I never remember theirs!).

As AFC as it sounds, it is true that if your posture is proud, your voice confident and you have a "whatever" attitude, the direct approach is surprisingly effective.

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it depends guys.. maybe Im the only one.. but I noticed that with some girls they like being complimented like that. You guys gotta remember all girls are different... for all you know she could have had ugly duck syndrome... being teased all her life and when she got older... she turns hot and the first guy to say hey your gorgous( making her feel special_ something she's not used to) could work sometimes..


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That opener is garbage, you are demonstrating too much interest and the girl will blow you off trust me. Girls with true beauty will just blow you out. It may work on HB4s and 5s but not on the top dogs.

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Who lies more Men or Women

P.S it old but works all the time


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No 2nd poster it worked because he was DIRECT and frank... AFC's will usually drag and stumble on it... "Hey ummm i was wondering your really beautiful and stuff can i buy you a drink" ... You just moved in and did what you had to do... some girls like that

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In my experience, girls dont like to be told out right that they are beautiful 'cause HB7-10 know they are as they are hit on by many men a night. Using the line ' you're the most beautiful girl i've seen all night' tells her you are just like all the other guys she's met and proves that you are working far too hard to get her - making you seem desperate and turning her attraction for you off.
I found, to open with something fun increases her value and introduces IOI for you from her. Use a line like 'you are the most beautiful... Space Alien... I've seen here all night'. This makes her feel that she's talking to a fun guy and delivering this in a confident way with the correct amount of pauses for a given time will definately get you in the driving seat.


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I cant believe so many guys (Im also guilty of this) are just becoming social robots lik style said:

Opinion opener --> Neg --> DHV --> ETC..

all u guys think about is routines, negs, the system......... I got bored of it because I found that I was nothing but a fuckin encyclopedia of routines..... There was no real interaction going on. It's like a fuckin army of clones... whether it be Style or Mystery....

I think THE MOST important thing about your approach is your congruency..... If you're Style who is like 5'8 and 130 lbs..... or mystery who looks like he came outta the circus..... THEN yeah you can sneak in under the radar and use the inderect method..... Girls rarely feel threatened by those guys and for good reason. Of course they use that to their advantage and work miracles...... BUT I dont think its gonna work for everyone.

Me for example..... I dont mean to be vain but it's pretty fuckin hard to sneak in under the radar when you're 5'11, 210 lbs of muscle and get the 'you should be a model' line all the time.

It IS all about confidence and what u convey: INNER GAME. Honestly read up on Hypnotica (get his Reinventing yourself program, its amazing).... There is a fuckin alpha who goes in direct and doesnt worry bout whats afc or whatever the system is...

Stop worrying so much about routines and how to sneak under the radar..... Work on your congruency and what u present to the ppl around u. Once that is rock solid, its not gonna matter so much what u say.... Because women will be turned on by how u are saying it and who u are...... Thats what Im working on.


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Honestly I think that the first one is garbage, but it could be pulled off with confidence and smoothness on the right girl (as everyone else had been saying).

However, I think that the second one is great for drunken nights. Except I would add the following line at the end of it. "Unless all you want from me is sex, then you’re going to have to learn some manners(or self control or w/e) because I am not that easy."


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