Tripp, I gotta tell ya...I've always considered that a woman wants to be approached...but I've never quite thought of it like that. Funny how I'm still suffering from AA. Guess I need a good gentle and extremely HARD shove into those situations. haha Very well written!! It is a big help for my current state and trying to get my head straight for tomorrow.

Hey rusty. Don't worry. We'll have fun tomorrow, and I believe you'll learn some stuff along the way too. That's one reason we're meeting slightly before we actually go out and hit the club, so we can get mentally prepared. Glad my post helped you.

good post la. it helped alot.

Very glad it helped man.

Nice view, great thread.

I need to improve that as well, I can tell that my walk doesnt show confidence but I dont know how to change it. Would you care to tell me where I can find or buy that video?

can u PM me what ESP means?

Ive begun trying a bit of what ive read on these forums over the past week.

I met a girl about an 8.5-9.0 in my book, last weekend at the beach with a few friends, i hadnt met her in the past, i introduced myself,as we spoke she stood close and begun hitting me while i teased her, old highschool indicator, i said something along the lines of i only hang with adventurous girls, she didnt move and continued chatting till i had to go.

I happened to walk into her work place this morning and i knew her boss, i sat and chatted to him for a minute, she was complaing about some thing and i told her she was a nanna in a playful way, because she was complaining.
When i said i was going I began to walk out and close to the exit i happened to notice something and paused to have a look, and she came over to me, i think to talk to me about what was in the store.

The whole time she was curling her hair with her fingers while she was talking to me about the products , i said i had to go and to give me her number i didnt have a pen Damn! and she started to laugh and said that her boss was like her dad and didnt seem to want to hand over her number she asked for my card and guess what i didnt have it with me Damn in the end i said, well ill see around and left. after reading all the forum posts i think the attraction wasnt strong enough, maybe, can anyone shed any light on my experience

Can anyone give me a few ideas, when i revisit this situation again?

I apologise if this isnt the correct thread to ask these questions, ill use the newbie excuse.

This thread is gold! Gold Jerry!

Rye Lee, I'm going to read that post every day for a week.

The Wussy stuff is also priceless.

Unattained, I think it's good that you walked away. Maybe next time she'll try a little harder to win you over (this is the mind set I think you should have).

Remember that you are the prize!

Hi all, I know I am new here and I hope I am not speaking out of line by speaking up.

However, I have to totally agree with what PrettyBoy said about being friends with girls. I have dated lots of girls over the years, some have been good relationships, some BAD!! However, I always managed to have lots of friends that were girls. In the past I slipped into 'friend mode' with a lot of these women, but I still took a lot away from those friendships.

Well, I just recently ended a LTR with a girl. She was a good girl but I was just ready to move on and really wanted to be with other girls. Anyways, I moved to this town because of her and really dont know too many people here since we were dating when I moved here.

Now that we have broken up I have made it a mission to make friends with lots of girls again and it has gone really well. Not only do you get to see things from their point of view, but having girls around increases your chances of meeting other girls.

There is one thing that I have changed this time around however. This time I staying out of friend mode by not even letting the conversation go there. I make out with a few of them every once and awhile and just let it go after. I woke up with one in my bed a couple times and just blew it off after that and its happened a few times (I think mainly b/c I didnt make it a big deal).

Anyways, like I said, I know I am a newbie, but I really saw a lot in PrettyBoy's posting. Take advantage of those girlfriends, they can teach you things you can never learn on your own.

a great post, but also an optomistic one.

a lot of those girls love being objectified, based on some inadequecy they had growing up. And what about bitch shields? a true HB10 very rarely is thinking 'I REALLY WISH some guy would approach me as an equal" blah blah, she defaults to a protective state because she gets hit on all the time... thoughts?

Ive got to agree with the above great thread comrades

Damn! I'm Guilty

Thought that since I was seeing multiple women that I couldn't contract Oneitis.... but truth is that I'd drop em all for one chick- (sigh) back to the drawing board.

-BlaTalian

I had a good time at this club my boy took me to my game was tight.I pick up two girls . They pulled me to the dance floor. I was the man in the club. so after i was finish dance with the two girls me and my boy just chilling in the bar and one of the girl was grabbing all over me and her friend showed up and had a three way kiss. Oh wait it get better. one of the girls was looking for me. I try to get her alone so we can talk but it was a bust. so and try to get a kiss but she say she was too shy . but my question is how to her to kiss me without hearing im too shy?

great advice guys,

IM still learning, but the thing that i had trouble with was not taking early rejections too personally. You just need to keep believing that the results will come, and they are starting too. I have a long way to go but better off then when i started