Well, the biggest training grounds for most PUAs is out at the bars/clubs/pubs. There's a lot of people there, they're in a friendly and social mood for the most part and they're also in a sexual mood as well.

Honestly I've never been asked what kind of car I drive, or how much money I make. It's exceedingly rare to even be asked what my job is, unless I end up directing the conversation in that way. If I don't feel like dealing with a question like that though, I just redirect a question at them so that they get distracted and generally forget. Otherwise, you can just say, "I'll tell you some other time." "I'm wary of falling into a relationship with another girl after my money, so I don't answer those questions until I know someone better." or some other cocky/funny line.

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I have trouble building up kino on dates.

I spent two hours with a girl on the first date, and the most kino I gave was a high five. Even when we played billiards or were at the arcade.

What are some ways to start kino during a date? I have another date with this girl and I dont want to make the same mistake.

When taking her hand and leading her to a place, do you extend your hand and wait for her to hold yours. Or do you just grab her hands and lead her.

We will be watching a play, so my plan is to grab her hand and lead her to a seat. Then use thumb war to build some more kino.

Oops, didn't see this post before!

If you can't hit the bars and clubs because of the age thing, then hit up the all ages clubs. There may not be any drinking, but people are still more friendly and social there and in higher density than walking around town aimlessly.

Malls are good, you just have to be wary of age, so you don't do direct game unless you're very sure she's old enough, otherwise you go indirect, just talk to them for a bit, then ask some sort of question to figure out their age. "Where do you go to school?" "Aren't you too young to be here without your mom? " etc.

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Personally I don't use NLP in the same manner that guys using speed seduction do. I use it a lot for inner game purposes, as well as the originally intended purpose of making communication between people more effective.

I use NLP skills to understand what other people are communicating to me better, as well as being able to communicate back to them what I desire more effectively, so that they are able to fully comprehend what it is I'm communicating and there aren't any misunderstandings.

NLP has a wide variety of applications, so depending on what you're interested in achieving, I believe it can be one of the most useful tools in anyone's arsenal, whether they are a PUA, a businessman, or anyone else.

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Well, you can handle this in several ways. You can say, "Not right now." "Several. " "Moving a little fast aren't you? We just met!"

Basically you can say all sorts of things, just don't say, "No" or "Yes" and you're pretty much fine. Hell, you can not even answer the question, just change topics completely and say, "I really like bananas. I don't know what it is, but lately I'm just hooked on the things!" Just don't play into what they expect and give them a straight answer.

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Hey, I have something of a situation to which I could use some advice. I'm going to be a Soph in College and a good friend(HB9) who I have always had a thing for but never saw enough to really take things to the next level. Now she is going to the same school as me which i'm super pumped about We have always kept in great contact with AIM which I think could be a burden to my game. I feel like talking extensively on AIM kind of kills the interest when we see each other in person...She is constantly IMing me and texting me and I go along with this..we talk on aim for hours...Would it be in my interest to cut off communications a bit to restore the thrill for when we are together in college. I have always believed in 'absence makes the heart grow fonder.' I am considering laying low with the digital communication for the rest of the summer...any advice?

In regards to the subject... I am kind of suffering from a mild case of one-itis...straighten me out!!

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You said you don't read long ones, but it all leads up on how to word a text message...

Hey man, my question is concerning NLP.

I've known/read about NLP for a few months and i know a decent amount i'd say, only reason i find it very difficult to apply it to every day conversation. The only aspect of NLP i can USUALLY be aware of his mirroring, and SOMETIMES if by any chance i was being mindful of their grammar and they started using words indicating their representational systems(visual/auditory/kinesthetic) ...i'll follow up my statement with "do you see/hear/feel what i mean?"

Anyway i was having a conversation with a friend yesterday who is also aware of NLP and another who we were trying to explain the concepts to. I then stated(what i've always felt) after i explained different aspects, "that i know different theories/ideas and it all makes sense and i believe them to be true, but i have no idea how one can honestly implement them in every conversation and of every moment during it". My friend said "well think if it like golf....you practice one technique at a time, sooner or later it turns second nature, then you implement something else, ditto, until you finally don't have to think about it, you just do it."

I stated that in no way can golf and a conversation be comparable b/c of how fast paced and abstract conversations are and there's never a millisecond that we aren't receiving/giving signals.

So how on earth can I(and these are things i do NOW, not advised NLP techniques).....try to control my stuttering, my rate of speech, my voice tonality, LISTENING to the person, THINKING about what is being said, THINKING about how to lead it or any thoughts i may want to ask about it, THINKING about how if i can or cannot personally relate to the topic and WHAT can i rebound with to continue the flow. That's what comes to my mind first....

But then how the fuck do you ALSO listen for trance words/mimic breathing rate/their speech rate/rearrange your thoughts to imply an embedded thought or command/try and pay close attention to micro facial expressions that may reveal the real emotion/thought/whatever is between the lines of their statement or story/eye movements/ and all the other techniques of NLP....jesus, i get tired of even trying to remember them when i'm not in a conversational setting.

Also, since i just read you apply NLP for inner game, how do you do this? And do you have to BELIEVE it will work, or will simply reciting the script/affirmation be guaranteed inserted into your subconscious with habitual practice? I'm looking forward to your insight! Thanks.

how do you reply when they call you a player, or ask are you a player ?
and sometimes they say you are a bit of a pimp aren't you?
how do i comment on that? i usally reply: hey, talking and having fun doesnt make me a player. but i was hoping you guys know a couple of one-liners i can throw in when a girl asks me if im a player. thanks

what does crossed legs and the leg on top is going back and forth with moderate speed mean? (so weird)

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Urgh. I needed advice right away and more than a day later nobody has responded.

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I have read a lot of your post and really like your style and ideas. I would really appricate your opinion on a thread I created. Post your answer there or here, I'll find it.

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Thank you so much!!!

So about a month ago, I met this girl at a college club party (college party at a club). She was really nice for her looks, I didn’t really run too much of a game on her, just talked for a little, I did ESP. I teased her a little and left to talk to my female friends. Then on the bus back, somehow we saw each other again, so we sat next to each other, and talked. And I found out that she is actually friends with a group of my CRAZY partier guy friends. While talking, I made sure my body language was right, wasn’t too eager. I told her we had a connection, and she said yeah. So we end up smoking weed in my room with a lot of ppl, then I walked her back to her place.

We ended up passing out on the couch in her building’s common room. When we were pretty high, I made a move to kiss her, and she turned her head away, so I kissed her neck, she didn’t respond at all and made a weird sound. I stopped, because I actually had some problem with another girl at the time. A while later, she said she had to go to sleep, so I said we should hang out again, let me have your number, but she was still half asleep and said she will find me on MySpace. The next morning, she did, and she said: “hahaha, last night was so funny; I was so high and tripped out.” Later on, we just talked here and there on MySpace, boring stuff, nothing too fancy.

Then a few days ago she sent me a message on MySpace asking if I want to smoke and go to the beach. I told her I have work so can’t go to the beach, but we can smoke, I gave her my number, and she gave hers to me. She texted me next day, asking what I’m doing that night, I told her smoking and hanging out, she didn’t reply. Then a day later, which is yesterday, she called me, but I didn’t have my phone with me, and when I saw it, it was late. So I’m planning on calling her today, anyone can tell what I should expect?

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hi guys. just joined the forum and i have a quick question to ask. i have already tried searching but i did not find what i was looking for.

say you are meeting a girl for the first time and you guys connect really well, but there were a few hints that she may have a boyfriend. how do you find out without asking directly? remember she is alone; so you cannot ask the typical "so how do you guys know each other" question.

Personally I wouldn't ask, I wouldn't much care. If she's in a committed relationship, then she won't do anything with you. If she isn't, then she's still "shopping around" and she's fair game by my standards.

I'd suggest you view it similarly, only because otherwise, you eliminate perhaps 50% or more of the girls you find yourself interested in. If she's someone that YOU find interesting and attractive, then odds are that other people find her the same way and so she may be seeing one of them. If she likes you better, then she'll ditch him for you, or maybe she wants to see both of you, especially if you're only casually dating and not having a serious relationship.

It comes down to what you're comfortable with though. Some girls may not mention another guy and won't mention you to him, just like you may not mention other girls to her, because it reduces the connection you feel, it creates jealousy, paranoia, etc. If you feel that you must know her status in order to engage in any sort of relationship with her though, I'd probably say something cocky/funny in order to take the seriousness and any sort of reading into the question away. Perhaps, "My god, ALL the boys must be chasing after you! You've gotta have, what? 1..2.....12 guys on the go? " This will have the effect of her qualifying to you, by telling you whether she is or isn't with someone, or if she's casually dating more than one person and generally what her philosophy on the whole dating thing is. Remember to laugh after you finish the line, because saying that she may be seeing 12 guys implicates she may be a slut, but because you're laughing and showing her with your eyes and body language, that you're really just cracking a flattering joke, it comes off closer to a neg, but much more friendly and positive, so that she will tell you whether to keep pursuing, or that she's taken.

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