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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:46 pm 
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I have found that aggressive girls tend to put off guys unless they are not very alpha themselves.

There are a lot of things that men and women share in common when it comes to dating:
-cant come off as needy/desperate
- be confident/show DHV
- social circle/pre-selection
- be able to communicate
- be able to tease/neg
- date in abundance

Also, if I am interested in a guy I hardly ever directly approach and act interested. If anything if I am at a bar I'll give him a hard time for sipping on some girly drink (if he is) or another comment. If he is unable to communicate back then oh well.

Venus, I'll have to keep checking your website for updates.

Chief, there are plenty of attractive women that don't get approached by guys too often.

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I have found that aggressive girls tend to put off guys unless they are not very alpha themselves.
So basically, you're saying that aggressive girls put off the guys that they'd actually want (alpha), and NOT put off guys that they wouldn't want in the first place (beta)? Interesting. :D


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If guys tend to stick to routine only, we start to become complacent. If a guy isn't willing to meet a woman half-way in proving that he's worth her time (IE vice versa as well), then that's just the case. Since PUAs has become a dime a dozen nowadays, their tactics on picking up women has become more public knowledge. With more and more of us younger PUAs (in terms of career, not age) preferring to stick only to routines that had worked in the past, which most women are starting to pick up on. As oppose to creating our own and coming up with new ways to play the game. Having a group of FPUAs out there would definitely keep us on our toes and weed out those who aren't willing to go the extra mile.

Besides, a little challenge never hurt anyone, right?


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Personally I disagree with the theory that being aggressive (as a woman) will cause you to run off the alphas(Upper 50%) and be left with only the betas(Bottom 50%). Personally I think it would polarize your prospects, and only the very desirable (Top 10% perhaps) and the below average (bottom 30% or so).

I say this because generally the weaker (bottom 30) will be looking for someone to lead them, male or female through thier interactions... and therefore apt to be receptive to a more aggressive female. The middle would be likely to be less receptive IMO because they would feel threatened and/or immasculated, among other smaller reasons. Lastly the top 10%... the alphas of the alphas wont care... To a guy like me, it makes little difference if I initiated contact with you or you with me... it still comes down to if I feel a girl is worth my time or not. The top alpha don't get worried about being immasculated or threatened... because they have no trouble leading other alpha males, and hence don't even consider having trouble leading a strong confident woman (who instinctually wants him to lead her anyway).


Also I have to agree that alot of beautiful women don't get approached as often as you think... depending on thier type of beauty... a Perfect example of this IMO is a former LTR of mine who was signed with Ford models... Very pretty girl, smart, funny, could hold a good conversation... but she intimidated the hell out of most guys... why? She's 6'1"... Personally I didn't see the problem with a woman who can look me straight in the eyes... but I can understand how that lowers your dominance on a primal level, or perhaps if your shorter then that. Alot of men are fragile and set thier goals low.


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Hey there Doctor, You are very right for the most part. The thing is that I tell my girls not to be too forward. I tell them to open a man, qualfy him, ask advice, and than wait for IOI's, not to put out any IOI's before a man has done so first, outside of originating conversation. Throwing yourself on a man can make you look cheap, and easy. Men no matter the status like to feel like they are in power, power is in their pre-eminent being, It is the reason that Adam took a bite of that apple, God giving him dominion over Eve, made him bite to lead her. Mens IOI's are much less forward than say a females because, they have been taught through society that being too forward can alienate the charms of the female in question, so of course I tell the girls to look for certain sighns, before letting themselves touch the product. So, in some ways I agree with -Chief-and in others I agree with you. The Ideal situation would be that one of my girls was approached by (HB) male, and than the game begins. Otherwise I tell the girls to approach said male and than let him think he is doing the leading.


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