Hey, How we all doing?

Beschatten, I am sorry to inform you that you are wasting your time in this relationship. Now I know that sounds strange as I have not seen or even heard many details however the point is in a relationship that works there is no alpha, better yet one is not needed. Each person is equal and you both will compromise to help each other. "A true relationship means that she can be herself, and you can be yourself" NLP in relationships.

Also off and on relationships are silly you guys break up as you cannot stand each other and then you or her get scared and settle. If you do not branch out you can never grow.

The problem is that you cannot fix a person to many people think that they can change others, you cannot. Only if a person wants to change will he or she. So why waste your time?

You can never control someone, really look at what you are asking and question your thoughts.

Sorry to be a downer, but you cannot control someone without sinking to a disturbing level and that is not what game is about. Game is all areas of your life handled, ridding yourself of humilities and succeeding in everything you do or at least giving it your best shot.

ChowforNow,

the--------------------------------------->Saint

Charisma Concept

www.charismaconcept.com

TheSaint@charismaconcept.com

"Whether or not you agree with his harsh, straight to the point mentality, truth be told, he’s the most active/ dedicated / motivating member on this board. He’s routinely getting newbies and current members out sarging, pushing them into sets, given them suggestions and advice, replying to posts more often then anyone else. (Come out Wednesdays and you’ll see what I mean). Also, I have not once heard him making excuses about not going out and pussying out. If anyone else can show me this, I will automatically promote you to any status that you want on this board. (including admin).

Now .. I (and others) .. have tried a more sugar coated / feel good approach to getting guys to come out. Truth be told, it hasn’t worked anywhere close as well. I'm dissappointed that with all the free resources, and the cool guys that we have offering free advice, so few people actually make use of it, go out consistantly, and get better with women, instead of dabbling and keyboard jockeying."

"How did it start?Well, I dont know.I just feel the craving.I see the flesh and it smells fresh.And it's just there for the taking."

"Looking at my own reflection When suddenly it changes Violently it changes Oh no there is no turning back now You've woken up the demon in me"

"Only see, somehow it always seems that I'm learnin' or something I can never be It dosen't matter to me, 'cause I will always be that pimp I see
in all my fantasies I don't know your fucking name.So what?
Let's.fuck"

"Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, reenergize, and rewind
I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind

Hey, How we all doing?

Griev, First off you should sarge at school during off time as it is one of the best places for you to practice.

Peacocking is for motivation, too many people use it as an alter ego. The deal is all you need to do is star an interaction and show her parts of you that she would mesh with this builds trust and from here you and her will be able to learn about each other.

An insult is a cuss or a swear or something that may offend while a Neg is supposedly a compliment followed by a slight insult. These are not needed, same as openers they are a placebo effect but try them out and soon you will see.

You gain mutual trust overtime, think about all your friendships, trust is earned. Find things in common be a decent person and enjoy yourself and what you are discussing. Think to everyone other than your family, is there one person that you gave trust to right away?

The conversation is only awkward if you choose to acknowledge it this way. People talk all the time what is so bad about you doing the same? Yes it will be awkward at the start for her as she is used to creeps and jerks but you are not this so ignore the awkwardness and it shall remove itself.

ChowforNow,

the--------------------------------------->Saint

Charisma Concept

www.charismaconcept.com

TheSaint@charismaconcept.com

"Whether or not you agree with his harsh, straight to the point mentality, truth be told, he’s the most active/ dedicated / motivating member on this board. He’s routinely getting newbies and current members out sarging, pushing them into sets, given them suggestions and advice, replying to posts more often then anyone else. (Come out Wednesdays and you’ll see what I mean). Also, I have not once heard him making excuses about not going out and pussying out. If anyone else can show me this, I will automatically promote you to any status that you want on this board. (including admin).

Now .. I (and others) .. have tried a more sugar coated / feel good approach to getting guys to come out. Truth be told, it hasn’t worked anywhere close as well. I'm dissappointed that with all the free resources, and the cool guys that we have offering free advice, so few people actually make use of it, go out consistantly, and get better with women, instead of dabbling and keyboard jockeying."

"How did it start?Well, I dont know.I just feel the craving.I see the flesh and it smells fresh.And it's just there for the taking."

"Looking at my own reflection When suddenly it changes Violently it changes Oh no there is no turning back now You've woken up the demon in me"

"Only see, somehow it always seems that I'm learnin' or something I can never be It dosen't matter to me, 'cause I will always be that pimp I see
in all my fantasies I don't know your fucking name.So what?
Let's.fuck"

"Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, reenergize, and rewind
I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind

Hey, How we all doing?

M, No I did not delete the other post as I do not have the power to. Now I am not sure if you can get the posts back but I do know that it was Jim something who was giving advice. I am sorry for the inconvenience that has occured but I am sure it was a moderator trying to keep it so that my knowledge is being shared on this forum.

Please look into Jim and see if you can get that information, as more knowledge equals more power. Next time just copy and paste the thread and hopefully we can stop this from reoccurring.

ChowforNow,

the--------------------------------------->Saint

Charisma Concept

www.charismaconcept.com

TheSaint@charismaconcept.com

"Whether or not you agree with his harsh, straight to the point mentality, truth be told, he’s the most active/ dedicated / motivating member on this board. He’s routinely getting newbies and current members out sarging, pushing them into sets, given them suggestions and advice, replying to posts more often then anyone else. (Come out Wednesdays and you’ll see what I mean). Also, I have not once heard him making excuses about not going out and pussying out. If anyone else can show me this, I will automatically promote you to any status that you want on this board. (including admin).

Now .. I (and others) .. have tried a more sugar coated / feel good approach to getting guys to come out. Truth be told, it hasn’t worked anywhere close as well. I'm dissappointed that with all the free resources, and the cool guys that we have offering free advice, so few people actually make use of it, go out consistantly, and get better with women, instead of dabbling and keyboard jockeying."

"How did it start?Well, I dont know.I just feel the craving.I see the flesh and it smells fresh.And it's just there for the taking."

"Looking at my own reflection When suddenly it changes Violently it changes Oh no there is no turning back now You've woken up the demon in me"

"Only see, somehow it always seems that I'm learnin' or something I can never be It dosen't matter to me, 'cause I will always be that pimp I see
in all my fantasies I don't know your fucking name.So what?
Let's.fuck"

"Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, reenergize, and rewind
I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind

awsome thanks. And its cool. I had it saved in my iphone lol so i thought that would be okay and didnt think of saving it somewhere else. but ill make sure to do so. And your great help keep it up bro
btw would you ahppen to know what jims profile/display name is?

Thanks a bunch for the tips, I'll take them to mind haha.

Just one last question, what goes through your mind when you're sarging? Do you have some sort of way of thinking that gets rid of your AA?

Saint Dog! Good stuff bro, I appreciate the knowledge. Could you drop a little on my situation?

I'm 25 and have been fuck buddies with this 19 year old HB8 for a few months now. To make a long story short: she asked for my #, I ended up taking her out and F-Closing her on date two. She was really in to me and seemed to be looking for something much more serious than I. After the first month we hung out and "dated" she asked me, "What are we?" I flat out told her I liked her but that we'd only be dating and nothing serious. This we ended up defining as, "you can go out with whoever you want but you better wrap that shit up." Oh yeah, and don't be obvious or a dick about it either.

We continued to hang out and fuck once a week or so. I became busy starting a business, etc and we didn't hang out for a month. When we talked she would tell me of guys asking for her number at work and an instance she asked a guy for his. I figured it was a ploy to create jealosy and it did a little. So, she ended up coming out to my place Thursday (which for her is a 40 minute drive one way) and fuck all night. Well, the next morning, my dumb ass asks her where she thought we stood, to which she replied "same as before, why?" I told her that I was curious as she had seemed like she was looking for something serious and that eventually I may be open to it.

She went on to interpret this as me wanting a serious relationship and how she likes the idea of us as we are. My problem here is:

1 She misinterpreted my question as being needy because we hadn't seen each other in a while.

2 In misinterpreting my question I believe I may have lost the stronghold that I once possessed.

3 I feel like this may jeopardize a situation I once found to be ideal..

What do I do to regain that upper hand? Have I blown it by toeing the line with a borderline "needy" question?

So this is my first post on this site, after a while lurking without an account. My experience is merely a read of The Game [at the time, only for interest, i had no idea of its implications], and some Mystery Method.

I just wanted to make a political point, carrying on from what you said before. While i can see why you would think capitalism is producing identical products etc, it is not designed to do this, nor does it do this in comparison to communism [e.g. in Warsaw Pact countries, you were only able to buy one brand of anything, go into Wal*Mart (or Tesco if you're a Brit like me) and there are about twenty types of detergent]. Now i'm not a hardline capitalist, but then noone really anyone is; even the Bush government [i'm including state and municipal governments in "the Bush government"] handles 35% of output, compared to 55% in the pretty much socialist state of Sweden. But this is a horrible digression, my only point is, whereas Communism's end goal is equity, capitalism [and a system of economic freedom] is rooted in individualism [i.e. one's duty to better onesself, rather than the government's duty]. Just to reiterate, i'm not placing myself on either side of the divide, just clearing up a misunderstanding; no communist would ever declare himself a proponent of individualism, and any true laissez-faire capitalist would.

On a more interesting note, Saint, your help has been hugely useful, although i am not on the gaming scene yet; i am at what seems to be the end of a once-lovely relationship. I look forward to asking a question myself; i am building up knowledge now, while i am still at school, which i will put to use in my two month summer holidays.

Again, apologies for the essay.

Hey, How we all doing?

M, I think his username was jusy JimR but I honestly did not take note of it.


ChowforNow,

the--------------------------------------->Saint

Charisma Concept

www.charismaconcept.com

TheSaint@charismaconcept.com

"Whether or not you agree with his harsh, straight to the point mentality, truth be told, he’s the most active/ dedicated / motivating member on this board. He’s routinely getting newbies and current members out sarging, pushing them into sets, given them suggestions and advice, replying to posts more often then anyone else. (Come out Wednesdays and you’ll see what I mean). Also, I have not once heard him making excuses about not going out and pussying out. If anyone else can show me this, I will automatically promote you to any status that you want on this board. (including admin).

Now .. I (and others) .. have tried a more sugar coated / feel good approach to getting guys to come out. Truth be told, it hasn’t worked anywhere close as well. I'm dissappointed that with all the free resources, and the cool guys that we have offering free advice, so few people actually make use of it, go out consistantly, and get better with women, instead of dabbling and keyboard jockeying."

"How did it start?Well, I dont know.I just feel the craving.I see the flesh and it smells fresh.And it's just there for the taking."

"Looking at my own reflection When suddenly it changes Violently it changes Oh no there is no turning back now You've woken up the demon in me"

"Only see, somehow it always seems that I'm learnin' or something I can never be It dosen't matter to me, 'cause I will always be that pimp I see
in all my fantasies I don't know your fucking name.So what?
Let's.fuck"

"Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, reenergize, and rewind
I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind

Hey, How we all doing?

Griev, When I go out sarging, I am out to have a good time thus the only thing that matters is that I am having fun. When it comes to AA I have been blown out of so many sets that I am numbed to the emotional feeling and on the counterpart I now due well in my sets. Yes the anxiety still is there but it is so small as I know nothing worse can happen then when I first started yet better things could be in the making.

As per when I first started my way of thinking was if I canceled my plans or set a specific day to sarge, and drove there and paid cover I had better be at least trying to excel. Even if I did not have the greatest success level that would not bring me down as long as I knew that I had worked my ass off practicing this skill set.


ChowforNow,

the--------------------------------------->Saint

Charisma Concept

www.charismaconcept.com

TheSaint@charismaconcept.com

"Whether or not you agree with his harsh, straight to the point mentality, truth be told, he’s the most active/ dedicated / motivating member on this board. He’s routinely getting newbies and current members out sarging, pushing them into sets, given them suggestions and advice, replying to posts more often then anyone else. (Come out Wednesdays and you’ll see what I mean). Also, I have not once heard him making excuses about not going out and pussying out. If anyone else can show me this, I will automatically promote you to any status that you want on this board. (including admin).

Now .. I (and others) .. have tried a more sugar coated / feel good approach to getting guys to come out. Truth be told, it hasn’t worked anywhere close as well. I'm dissappointed that with all the free resources, and the cool guys that we have offering free advice, so few people actually make use of it, go out consistantly, and get better with women, instead of dabbling and keyboard jockeying."

"How did it start?Well, I dont know.I just feel the craving.I see the flesh and it smells fresh.And it's just there for the taking."

"Looking at my own reflection When suddenly it changes Violently it changes Oh no there is no turning back now You've woken up the demon in me"

"Only see, somehow it always seems that I'm learnin' or something I can never be It dosen't matter to me, 'cause I will always be that pimp I see
in all my fantasies I don't know your fucking name.So what?
Let's.fuck"

"Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, reenergize, and rewind
I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind

Hey, How we all doing?

Swan, Really I think you are making this much more than it is. She probably enjoyed you being slightly needy for a day as long as it is not something that is reoccurring it is fine. There is no stronghold just a relationship in which you both gain benefits from and as long as that stays the same and it is fun and exciting you are in good hands.


You have not blown this situation, you can even say that you opened up that way to judge if she was still happy with what you have but bud you do not need this. Sometimes out of sight and out of mind are the best way to recover.


ChowforNow,

the--------------------------------------->Saint

Charisma Concept

www.charismaconcept.com

TheSaint@charismaconcept.com

"Whether or not you agree with his harsh, straight to the point mentality, truth be told, he’s the most active/ dedicated / motivating member on this board. He’s routinely getting newbies and current members out sarging, pushing them into sets, given them suggestions and advice, replying to posts more often then anyone else. (Come out Wednesdays and you’ll see what I mean). Also, I have not once heard him making excuses about not going out and pussying out. If anyone else can show me this, I will automatically promote you to any status that you want on this board. (including admin).

Now .. I (and others) .. have tried a more sugar coated / feel good approach to getting guys to come out. Truth be told, it hasn’t worked anywhere close as well. I'm dissappointed that with all the free resources, and the cool guys that we have offering free advice, so few people actually make use of it, go out consistantly, and get better with women, instead of dabbling and keyboard jockeying."

"How did it start?Well, I dont know.I just feel the craving.I see the flesh and it smells fresh.And it's just there for the taking."

"Looking at my own reflection When suddenly it changes Violently it changes Oh no there is no turning back now You've woken up the demon in me"

"Only see, somehow it always seems that I'm learnin' or something I can never be It dosen't matter to me, 'cause I will always be that pimp I see
in all my fantasies I don't know your fucking name.So what?
Let's.fuck"

"Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, reenergize, and rewind
I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind

Hey, How we all doing?

Spark, Do not get me wrong I am on neither side of the spectrum. Also I totally agree that Capitalisms point is an individual doing well and choosing what gets produced however due to the media influencing so many people into what they buy and do everything is the same or at least looks this way.

Now this is not the way it was meant to be but marketers and advertisements are tearing away at the buyers. No one wants to stand out. Capitalism is about individualism but really as of late it has only been about being financially better.

Look forward to hearing your question.


ChowforNow,

the--------------------------------------->Saint

Charisma Concept

www.charismaconcept.com

TheSaint@charismaconcept.com

"Whether or not you agree with his harsh, straight to the point mentality, truth be told, he’s the most active/ dedicated / motivating member on this board. He’s routinely getting newbies and current members out sarging, pushing them into sets, given them suggestions and advice, replying to posts more often then anyone else. (Come out Wednesdays and you’ll see what I mean). Also, I have not once heard him making excuses about not going out and pussying out. If anyone else can show me this, I will automatically promote you to any status that you want on this board. (including admin).

Now .. I (and others) .. have tried a more sugar coated / feel good approach to getting guys to come out. Truth be told, it hasn’t worked anywhere close as well. I'm dissappointed that with all the free resources, and the cool guys that we have offering free advice, so few people actually make use of it, go out consistantly, and get better with women, instead of dabbling and keyboard jockeying."

"How did it start?Well, I dont know.I just feel the craving.I see the flesh and it smells fresh.And it's just there for the taking."

"Looking at my own reflection When suddenly it changes Violently it changes Oh no there is no turning back now You've woken up the demon in me"

"Only see, somehow it always seems that I'm learnin' or something I can never be It dosen't matter to me, 'cause I will always be that pimp I see
in all my fantasies I don't know your fucking name.So what?
Let's.fuck"

"Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, reenergize, and rewind
I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind

Hey theSaint, I'm new to the forum but just browsed through your responses and you seem to give good advice.

My question concerns DHV in a foreign country.


So here's the story;
I've been dating this girl for about 4 months. Basically I picked her up through a series of situations where I just happened to be an alpha in a few ways...
1. Physically; at my sport- skiing / ski competitions.
2. Socially; having a GREAT time every single night
3. Economically; I was the only one that was living off savings rather than working a shit job in the ski town
4. Physically; not too sound cocky but there was not much competition in the beauty department.

Anyway everything has been going great. But recently she started talking to her (long term) ex boyfriend. He has a new love interest (as does she) but they still hang out on occasion, and it's a little concerning. Especially when you consider the fact that I'm visiting, from a different country, and from different social circles.

I'm sensing that she's wondering if she made the right choice, and I want to prove that she did. Right now my gameplan when I visit is to just have a great time, and to Win the men in order to win the women.

Do you think talking about her relationship with the ex is a disaster waiting to happen? how should I handle this situation

I should also mention that she is going to a party that he (the ex) will be at this weekend, and also that her IOI's have tailed off in these past few weeks, which is a little troublesome.

My gut instinct is to be the same alpha I was when we met. But Im also concerned that gaming her friends, or ignoring the target could backfire if she's expecting me to be the boyfriend i have been so far.

sorry one final piece of the puzzle;

Almost everyone speaks english, but it is (obviously) not the first language. Im already handicapped being outside the tight-knit social circle, so i'm worried the language barrier could further handicap.

Thanks a lot for the input! My next question to you is then, what suggestions do you have for me to spice things up and make them more exciting? At this point I feel like some of her "desire" to be with me has receded a bit from when we were hanging out frequently, in part due to the lack of excitement.

I understand the natural course a relationship will take with ups and downs, times of tension, nervousness and excitement, but I want to restore some more excitement. It's like things have gotten a little stale and routine. She comes over, we watch a movie, talk, go out to eat, etc. fuck.