we had a great date last night. i was over her house made out, felt each other up, kissed breasts, etc. It was our first time to go that far.

now today we were meeting up (we usually hang out at her house) and she didnt want to meet at her house and wanted to go out instead. I am leaving for a month tomorow so thought we would go to her house and make out some more but she seemed to resist

shes a really good girl so what do i do? and why did she do that?

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Maybe she is feeling that she got a bit too involved too soon, with you leaving for a month. How many dates have you been on with her?

- SC

we are both in high school if that helps, and we must have gone on 10-15 dates/places at least

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"Never be afraid to try something new. Always remember: Amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic"

If you were feeling each other up you should have gotten down to it. That's why she pulled away from you this time... by getting to a certain point then stopping you either looked like you were uncomfortable, didn't know what you were doing, or weren't sure about her level of comfort. If you showed restraint especially after being out with her so many times it seemed strange to her and she's probably worried that she might not be experienced enough for you... or worse, the other way around.

There are no good girls... they just want to seem that way in front of other girls, or guys they don't know that well. You've been on 10-15 dates and you still haven't fucked her? What the fuck. That's all I have to say on that matter. She's not a prostitute, you don't need to take her out and spend money on her for her to sleep with you... as far as I'm concerned you should have crossed that border a long time ago. Get to it, ASAP.

we have hung out a bunch of times but in a short period of time like a month. I dont really think that good classy girls want to get fucked that fast especially high school virgins! but i respect your opinion.

i want to get back to how it was last nigh and escalate even farther....i just hate being the one that initiates as i fear rejection

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"Never be afraid to try something new. Always remember: Amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic"

All girls wanna get fucked, time frame is highly irrelevant, good girl or bad girl. Now a virgin changes that, because she's never had any sex at all, so she's gonna be much more hesitant and you are gonna have to take it slower most likely (yeah, there's exceptions, but generally speaking).

I think one of the reasons she may not have wanted to meet at her place, is because after having gone as far as you guys did, with you leaving, she may have felt like you would pressure her into having sex and then run off. This is an understandable reaction, don't fault her for it, just when you get back, take a few steps back and build it up again. After a little while longer, you should be able to full close her.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye

You think classy girls don't want to get fucked? So do most other guys. The media and your parents are responsible for putting that idea in your head, the same sources responsible for filling our heads with ideas like asking a woman on a date and letting her make decisions, buying her gifts to win her affection and other such bullshit. There is no such thing as good girls, believe me. No matter how pure they seem on the outside, they all have dirty little secrets and fantasies and when the right guy comes along... showtime, baby. Rye makes a good point about virgins though. They're different in that they haven't experienced it yet, but they still have their little fantasies.

On that note, don't take a girls virginity unless you actually plan to stay with her for a long time.

it makes sense now thinking about it, i guess i should have said virgin instead of "good". I plan on staying with this girl for quite a long time as i enjoy her company so we will see how it goes....

so how do you bring the wild fantasies out?

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"Never be afraid to try something new. Always remember: Amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic"

Same as with everything else. Lead and she will follow. I'm not saying you need to be verbal here, just be comfortable and relaxed, and be confident when you explore her body and have fun with her. When she feels comfortable with you as a lover her wild side will come out. This is in the context of a proper relationship though, I've been with girls I just met and they just get so horny they do all kinds of shit... I love life.

Honestly, wild fantasies aren't where you wanna lead a virgin, that's for after you've been with her a little bit and she's had a bit more experience with sex. I'm not saying to keep it boring and all missionary, candlelit garbage, I'm just saying don't try to bring out the inner dirty slut until she's more comfortable with her sexuality.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye

like I said, we have been going out for at least 10-15 times and i am not looking for wild sex, im just looking to bring out the much kino and some oral sex.

I am not looking on just using her as I plan on staying with her and I want to please her as well

so basically my question rephrashed is: how do i escalate with a virgin to a more sexual relationship?

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"Never be afraid to try something new. Always remember: Amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic"

Show her that it's safe, she's safe and that it means something, it isn't just about sex. Escalate kino while gazing into each other's eyes and tell her things about how much she turns you on, how you can't stop thinking about her, whatever fits the mood. Don't get overly mushy and romantic, just show her that you're not looking for a quick fuck, you're actually interested in her.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye

aah the good old pua forum...helping highschool kids get laid...
...use a condom lol...
Hey if you felt each other up I don't think she is as scared as you think. Next feel up session, just start taking her clothes off and if she stops you at that point she isn't ready and thats just how it is.

http://www.theseductionbible.com/2006/1 ... scalation/

Read.

With a high school virgin, it's all about incidental escalation. More than likely she will let you do everything but sex without much resistance - you just have to escalate properly. She doesn't want to feel like you're pushing her, so you need to make sure she's plenty turned on before you go in directly. If it gets to the point where you're doing all the work though, don't be afraid to guide her. You're the experienced one and you're gently teaching her the ropes.

Sex will eventually come, but you both have to be naked for it to happen. This is why proper escalation is key. More than likely she will lose her virginity in a spontaneous action driven by raging hormones rather than an intelligent rational decision. All you have to do is get those hormones going out of control and make sure your dick is ready and standing at attention.

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-That's my two cents...

This is wrong I'm afraid. I've had girls that are definitely NOT virgins and not in highschool, defintely NOT strangers to sex, still resist when the clothes start coming off.

This is what we call LMR (Last Minute Resistance), it isn't something to be scared of, it's one of my favorite moments, cause they WANT it, you can see it in their eyes, they want it so bad their eyes are glistening in the light and they usually have a coy little smile, or are acting shy and reserved. Now you've reached the finish line, but there's one last little obstacle and you just gotta figure out how to get around it, so depending on the girl you may have to make out more and use your fingers some to get her worked up enough, or maybe you've gotta do a take away, or maybe she wants you to take yours off first and that's the only way you're gonna get hers off. It's one last little puzzle to figure out before you get to the goal, that's what I call fun, cause she doesn't want to stop it now, she wants you to figure out how to get past this obstacle and she's rooting for you.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye