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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:12 pm 
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hey guys, im gonna go out sarging this weekend, this will be my second time ever sarging (i found out how easy sarging really is) and im making it a must for my self to number close at least 1 set (win or fail i will ask for numbers etc)

any suggestions on how to move from opener to number close?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:52 pm 
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Only your second time, and you've been here since January? You need to get motivated - sharpish. Don't focus so much on results, focus on your approach. Your approach is the most important thing because nomatter how solid your structure is, if you don't carry yourself with confidence it'll be useless. Eye contact and good voice tonality are essential, and believe me, numbers are easy as hell to get so don't make that your main goal. You want to make it so that when you call her she gets a nice feeling inside and will be happy to see you again. I can walk up to a girl, say hi and tell her we should get together some time and that I wanna get her number so I can make that happen. I can do that to 10 girls in a day but that doesn't mean they'll all meet me when I tell them to. Aswell as being confdent and going after what you want, you also want to be casual. Spend a little time chatting with her after you get her number and get to know her a little, the last thing you want is to get her number then eject because it looks like you were aiming to get her number just so you could get the fuck outta there. You want to appear calm, collected and make the encounter pleasant and casual for her.

Don't be timid, and don't beat around the bush... you have two possible outcomes if you wait too long to get her number. One: she doesn't know why you're talking to her and thinks you're just being nice, then after a while you hand her your phone and she's taken by surprise. As far as she's concerned, you've been buttering her up and trying to make her like you enough for her to give it to you. That's some bad shit right there.

Two: she knows exactly why you're talking to her and by hiding your intentions you make yourself out to be insecure. I see this a lot and if you find yourself in this situation she'll be telling you about her boyfriend or whatever else she can come up with. Neither of these is really workable, so cut to the chase as soon as you possibly can. Don't wait any more than a few minutes to get her number and talk to her a while after you get it.

If this is day game and you want a structure to follow, do your opener then transition into your routine or whtever, then tell her she's cool but you need to get going then hand her your phone, and tell her you'll give her a call later to see what she's up to. Simple stuff. After you get her number you can ask her something situational such as what she's doing the rest of the day, the idea of this is to give you something to talk about when you call her later. You can ask her how X thing went and so on, and this will build some comfort with her aswell. Once the conversation is still going well, tell her your doorbell just rang and you have to go, tell her she's cool and that you guys should meet up some day... and organise it.

If this is night game... well, night game isn't about getting numbers. Trust me on this one, if you meet a girl at a bar or club and you're kissing or having a bit of fun, you take her the fuck home because if you're scared to suggest it and settle for her phone number she won't meet you again because the feelings of passion fade away very quickly and she'll feel awkward as hell talking to you the day after. She'll have kissed other guys that night aswell you know, and they've prbably done the same thing so she really doesn't want any of it. I've settled for numbers a few times because friends of the girl I was gaming have gotten the better of her and try as I might, I never saw any of them again. You either take her home or you don't see her again, plain and simple.

Any questions? :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:05 am 
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no i am motivated now, earlier i wasn't motivated because i didn't have any style (was a metal head with to much hair, crusty facial hair, no peacocking etc) but now im well groomed, have a good style, (people say i look like johnny depp) and i actually went sarging (finally had the balls to) and realized sarging is not even scary, in fact i was amazed at how easy opening and approaching is

and i would say i look fairly good now, get compliments etc... my inner game has greatly improved after first sarge and new style

and now im actually gonna do this stuff instead of going out and not doing it

i was just asking if anyone knew any good ways to go about getting numbers, just to make it more smooth, i am completely aware now that i have to crash and burn to learn stuff more clearly(or at least to learn my social limits), or meaning i have to go out there, (i will probably fail sometimes) but i will learn from my mistakes instead of not sarging

BTW this is day game in malls, im still 16 years old

thanks for the info, if you do happen to find a good routine to # close plz let me know


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:14 am 
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Um yeah, I just told you what to do. I thought it'd be better to explain things and leave room for your own interpretation rather than giving you a script. If it's a script you're looking for then I could give you countless examples of what I've used, but that's not what this is all about.

Maybe my post before was too long for you, but in condensed form here it is:

Approach, open, routine, number. Boom. If that's not clear enough then maybe you wanna read the fourth paragraph of my last post again.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:18 am 
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alright, sorry for seeming like an ass, i tend to do that alot and not being conciously knowing of it, people call me an asshole all the time, much appreciated


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:21 am 
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Hey it's cool. Your post was pretty long so you were probably typing it up at the same time I was doing mine, haha... anyway yeah, now you know how to get a number aswell as what to do when you get it! Go out and have fun. :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:23 am 
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k cool, i gotta look up a routine since i never used one yet, plz suggest me some good ones that i can improvise in a mall, gonna sarge tommarow after school


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:29 am 
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Tell you what, go into the PUA chat from the main page... it's far faster than posting lots of stuff on here. 8)


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