In the past whenever girls made eye contact with me and smiled I got nervous and looked away. Now it is the opposite, when I see girls I stare at them waiting for them to make eye contact, and if they do I out stare them and continue on my merry way. However I noticed now less girls make eye contact with me, and in the past I only caught them looking at me if I was looking in another direction and happened to turned their way. What is a good way to start a convo with someone who stares at me, and how would i do this in a crowd of people too? thanks guys

you out stare them? sorry but I had to laugh. I did that lots of times exactly like what you are saying, I hated not winning the stare down. lol, but just like you they stop looking. Because I scared them lol. Dude smile and nod at them if you aren't really trying to speak with them. You lose nothing by smiling and nodding. Hell you will notice them all smiling at you during the year and feel more comfortable. Just keep smiling. I was in that boat.

lol man if women are staring at
you go over and approach take it
as an approch invite

and if you cant get over to talk to them
make a face at them or smile
if you make em laugh and you
see them again you will deff be able
to talk

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making eye contact is a great way to approach them. its like a visual opener. but dont be to hastey. they might be staring at somethhing/someone behind you. give them a smile and see what reaction you get. then approach her with a real opener. and let the game begin. for me making eye contact is a solid IOI. as for the crowd of people .. its no diffrent from being at a bar or club. heck you can even use the person next to her as a pawn.

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never stare at girls that didnt look at you yet! it makes you look like a creep! if you stare at a girl it means: "i like you so much, but i dont know what to do other than staring like a stupid-ass", so dont do that! thats why guys who scan the club and stare at all the girls never get a girl!

make sure they stare at you first (and if they dont, then just dont stare!)
and if you get caught up in mutual staring then YES, you should keep staring longer than her plus smile in a sly way like: "haha, just another silly girl that likes me! i enjoy this so much, happens to me all the time" (so thats a really sly smile)

and yes its an approach invitiation if a girl stares at you (she is saying the same: i like you but i dont know what to do except staring), you should go to her and bust on her with a frame that she likes you so much. (unless she is young or shy, then just be nice and everything will be fine)

Sorry bro but it sounds like you are trying too hard. It kinda comes accross creepy.

Do not TRY to make EC, instead let it happen. Think about it, if someone was looking in your direction, and you noticed outta the corner of your eye, you would probably avoid EC with them, and only look at them when they turned away.

Instead glance at someone, then go about looking at other things. Feel free to glance back(not too much), and if they happen to be looking at you make EC. Dont stare them down, just make contact and give a CONFIDENT smile, hold the EC and keep smiling til they look away.

If you dont get EC you dunt get it, not everyone is gonna make EC with you.

The BEST place to practise this is in the mall. Find a friend, preferably a girl who is somewhat attractive, and walk through the mall. This way you have someone to occupy some of your attention so that your not just walking around eyeing people up, plus it will provide social proof and get more people to make EC with you. A fun way to this is to turn it into a challenge, keep count of how many girls look down to break EC, and how many look to the side...even how many dont break til you walk by each other or outta veiw.

Hope this helps.

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"Be the same, only better."

Out stare them . . .

If a girl is staring at you then walk up and say, "Hi"

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Yeah never search for the contact always let them contact you ...
N then keep looking smile till she look away n then approach with ,

[pua]Hey you owe me a drink
[hb] Why ????
[pua] i won the staring contest.

she may either laugh , n then your in just talk then run game,
OR

[hb] what staring contest
[pua] Don't deny it , i saw you looking at me , i know u like me.

I just came across a great post on this topic, if I find it soon I'll edit this.
But the line was something like: "walk up to her, ask her if you know each other, and after her reply just say that you saw her looking at you. You were wondering if she's a stalker or something. It's ok if she is, she's kind of cute..."

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EC is nice but I wouldn't approach direct even with EC.

Mark her as a potential target, "wander" in her direction but open a set or two en route. This increases your social proof, makes you appear hard to get and, who knows, you might meet someone better en route.

We've got to get the thought out of our heads that there are a finite number of women. What's finite is the number interesting, exciting guys like ourselves. THEY are lucky if we grace them with our presence.

what i do is... if u catch her staring and have enough time to do this stick out you tongue at her and laugh when she does and smile...talk to her and use anything cocky...call her out on her staring...and be observant look at the place and make convo on whats around...whats she wearing..doing...etc...it will be natural and smooth....buy mystery method handbook and read it too...you will learn more than posting

good ec advice i used to do the same until about a month ago!

great advice here! I used to try to outstare them too! I felt good when winning but then I realized I was getting nothing out of it.

Smiling is the best

here is a cheezy line from KTVIP "i was thinking if i should come here and talk to you or if we should just continue flirting from a distance, well im here now so i guess we're talking"

yea sounds like you are sort of being too aggressive with the eye contact. If am sitting in a restaurant or on a bus and see a girl looking at me, i'll look back at her and maybe give a nod. Usually she will immediately look away, which is fine. If i catch her staring again i make eye contact and wink. usually they smile and the ice is broken.

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