Alright... so picking up is fkn easy... most of the time i lay out a good game that girls usually ask for my number... then i usually smile and say my mom told me not to give out my number to strangers... and get their number first and give them mine...

Ive run the game on many gurls and there are 4 HBs in my uni that i am trying to get.... so i talked to the first one and fully started to get into the dating sort of thing... this ruthless bitch said that i see you as more of a friend... so i said fk.. u know what... u think id drive all the way out here just to be your friend... i was fkn pissed off so i let her kno bout it... n told her that its a turn off when you ask someone to be your friend... it should be mutual... The second one... well she fkn broke up with her bf last week or someshit... n under the fkn mentality that "i dont want to go through that again" on top of that there is another kent who is trying to get her... i kno she likes me but being fkn religious it feels like she would only open her legs to god himself... and i just need some advice as to what to do... n i dont really FUCKING want to be her LJBF... i wanna be the friend thats fucking her in the arse... any ideas and what to do is greately appreciated... im soo not talkn this gurl until i figure out what it is that i am doin wrong.... any help would be appreciated...

Excuse my frustration... feels like a FC right now

lmao. Ionno man, just chill. maybe it's your attitude you need to change so you stop gettin friendzoned.
Stop being a nice guy, use the push-pull.

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lol tough luck brotha. If you seem to be getting put into the friend zone too often, maybe you should emphasize your statement of intent with these girls earlier on.

I made a mistake in the past where i met a girl and we had a pretty good connection. I kino'd her but i hesitated to kiss close her at the end of the day. I didnt see her again for a week, but we talked on the phone a few times in between. When i met her again, she said she saw me more of a friend.

I know that if i had kissed her during the first interaction, or had made it clear on the phone that i wanted to be more than friends then things would have turned out differently.

hope this helps.

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fairnuff... all this has been happening on the day game basis... n even though ive been with soo many social butterflies... i wud want this trophy gurl to be mine... i may have risked it but instead of me being friendzoned i friendzoned her from a msg... mentality behind this was that if everyother guy is after her... maybe me friendzoning her demonstrates high value that i am not needy... who knows i risked it... but it seems like that i wont be able to close her after 3 dates... and my initial msg was written out of pure frustration that i couldnt get the gurl I fuckin want... always had to settle for something else and because of it i didnt want to get into relationship with any of them.... anywais ill keep you gys posted on what is happening...

This is the funni thing if you decide to stick around a gurl they friendzone you... because you made your self too available to her with out she giving you the option to be available... if you try to do something trying to cheating her slut mechanisms... the mechanisms will activate later on... im just mind fucking this gurl at the moment... she likes the way i am... n i am working her best friend... she loves me as well.... but then i had to make things clear for her that i am not after her.... so my goal is to get into her social circle... its hard walking this fine line of LJBF and something intimate... but i will WALK HARD....!!

wow, first off... if your a PUA, who cares if she wants to be friends...her loss not yours. There's plenty more women out there to game on (especially since you say you get them ALL the time and it's 'sooo' easy". Second, if you don't change your attitude towards women, I don't think your ever going to get anywhere with anyone. Seriously, just because some girl doesn't want to be more than friends with you doesn't mean she is a 'ruthless bitch'. Now if she inscribed it on a bullet and shot it through your testicles, you might have an argument.

P.S. Just an OCD thing, but please brush up on your grammar and spelling skills.

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Just wanted to add this.....
Definitely a good point, don't be a nice guy. But don't be a complete dick, even if it is behind their back. Don't try and LJBF with her if your only using that to try and get laid. One it's probably not worth the time or the effort. If your as good as you say you are, you could have 50 girls by the time you reach that point with her. Also be careful if you are trying to game her best friend, if you move on from her friend to her, more likely than not they have talked and no good can come out of it for you.
But best of luck anyway

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hmm you know what man love the advice that you have given me... When i say its easy its because i gamed all these girls during the day time i think i only have the attraction part down packed... and i think its because i just had the goal of making her see the value in me that she got my contact details... and stupid fucking me read somewhere that instead of trying to use gimmicks send her the msg that im going to be her friend forever... but i think its because of that ive sucessfully obtained contacts.... but not been able to f-close any of them... and yeah i guess this is gonna be work in progress but ill try my best...

In terms of attitude... you could probably say that as a kid i missed way too many hugs and kisses that i actually grew up being sour towards woman... Most important woman (my mom) left me and my dad when i was 3... she ran away with sum other dude and when i heard about the story i always saw her as a fucking whore... so i was always under the mentality if my mom could do that to me... there is no way that some random girl is going to care about me... its either hate woman and be gay or find a way out of that hell... i only came to australia in 1998 and struggled to learn english from not knowing or speaking a word of english where i came from... during high school all these girls were talking to me but none of them wanted to go out with me because i wasn't a christian or catholic... hoping that one of the girls would come around... i waited 3 years... then all of a sudden she gets a boy friend and stopped calling me and talking to me... fuck i collapsed... cuz i just couldn't take that shit... so for the next three years i hit the blunt hoping it would go away... fuckin all these FUGs... it was a miracle coming across that youtube video of mystery that changed my life... it actually gave me a reason to fkn wake up do stuff and gave me a reason for my existence.... and from studding engineering and business i changed my degree to psychology... and ive been soo fucking depressed and destructive that i thought about things i shouldn't be thinking about.... but at the end i always told my self fuck what i believe in becomes my reality... because i made everything happen for my self... i actually believed that i am my own god and what i believe in becomes my reality...

did i mention that i watched lot of porn to keep myself sane... and every time i was with a girl i expected them to fuck like porn starts....

And change of attitude is exactly what i need... but i just dont know what that would look like... because ive becomes so comfortable being me...

TL;DR sorry!

Just got a suggestion for the first girl, make her a pivot. It can be kind of awkward transistioning her and showing her you're a pua but if you're comfortable w/ it then it's alot easier to guide her in. You get a new shiny peacocking item and she gets to meet a bunch of cool guys, plus if you're really intent on getting this girl it could flip her jealousy switch. Just a thought to help you deal w/ your frustration.

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