Well tonight let me just tell you,
Again I tried my hardest to attract women that I felt attracted to, again they shunned me and ignored me(same as always so why spoil the habit of a lifetime).
Then the women I liked ended up getting off with someone else, and on the way home I walked to clear my head(same as always) and a few guys pulled up in a car shouting abuse reminding me how ugly I am.
So I said tell you what come out here and say it man to man and we will sort it, tell you what the 5 of you come out and say it to me I will knock the fuck out of the lot of you(I was hoping one of them would pull a knife out and stab me make it quick, end the hell that im living) but sadly the shitbags didnt fancy it and pulled away pronto, all mouth as per usual.
Lets face it my life is pointless, fate has fucked me theres really no point for guys like me, things will never change.

What method have you been using?

- Chris

Just tried smiling and talking but as per usual they are desperate to get away from me..what a pointless existance I have been given, i am living a pointless life, no one deserves the life ive lead.

You are talking to a guy who got SPAM for suicide in 9th grade and didn't have a single friend until high school I was also diagnosed with a nonverbal learning disorder and Asperger's and had most of the kids I went to middle school recall that they don't remember ever having heard me say a word during all of middle school because I was antisocial, afraid and a supplicating wimp. I was also popped up on pills most of my young life by my parents which prevented my brain from being capable of using it's natural creative facilities because I was "different" and couldn't learn in a "fromal" society school enviorment the way most kids could. I now run a sucessful internet business and help teach other men too so don't give me your shit you can get through it.

Get over yourself - you need to learn to NEVER expect anything from anyone else; the only person you should set expectations for is yourself. If you EVER want to be happy all you can do is take whatever is put in front of you and deal with it and face it head on no matter how many years it takes because complaining and whining is not going to get any better. I know it feels like you're boxed in but for the time being it's the best you can do if you ever want to be happy because all you can do is work from where you are to improve your life or go on being miserable.

Also I had huge glassess and constantly failed at school no matter how hard I tried while my brother was in gifted and advanced courses and always had friends over. Moreover, I was always at least 30 lbs. overweight and couldn't loose a pound no matter how much dieting and exercise I got. I've had people spread rumors about me and I've had violent death threats and my mother would constantly remind me of how I failed constantly.

Something simple I realized I was missing for years: if all girls respond the same way to you it is not them; it's you and you need to accept that if you are ever going to change. Don't blame it on your looks I knew a 40 year old scrawny chinese man with glasses who I had picking up gorgeous 22 year olds easily. You have the power to be amazing and I know for a fact you have had far more negative reinforement than positive but you need to realize you are just as amazing and deserving as anyone else - you just weren't raised by society to believe that.

How is your inner game? Is it natural; do you maintain eye contact and speak with conviction and show the woman that you are dominating her reality and are in control of the interaction? I'm willing to bet based on my early experiences you aren't. If you want to be successful you NEED to have confidence, control and dominance in every interaction you want to win. I understand that much of your interactions are caught up in the emotions of talking to a hot girl and become involuntary but you need to get it straightened out. If you want me to take you through how to change your life around I would love to help you out because I can truly sympathize with what you're going through in feeling your life is worthless - I spent most of my pre-teen and teen years feeling the same way.

- Chris

That's serious business man. Consider therapy if you haven't already. (I'm a psych major and honestly you'd be amazed how much it can help.)

Honestly, you may be reeking of desperation and not even notice it, gotta work on yourself a hair first.

Either way man, you'd be surprised. It's more about your attitude and what you say than how you look. Trust me on this, I am not what most people consider a good looking guy and I do alright.

Difference is with me guys im 24 going on 25.
If things where really going to change for me they would have a long time ago

Forget women, get into Hollywood. Do it the old-fashioned way.

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Niel Strauss, or Style as many know him, was over 30 when he first learned about the game. He was a lot worse off than most of us, but his confidence and yearning to soak up as much knowledge as possible brought him to the top.

Work on your inner game. It helps a lot.

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"The future you have, tomorrow, won’t be the same future you had yesterday."

I am older than you.

How do you expect things to change? Are you expecting to wake up one day and everything is magically different? Well its not going to happen unless you make a consious desicion to do it. You have to put in the time and effort into it yourself. I don't think PUA is your answer. Therapy is. But you have to be willing to accept that. No one is going to change you. you have to change yourself.

Right now you are at a crossroads in your life. If you keep going down the path you are going it is going to just become harder and harder to make that change in your life you are looking for. You have to decide what it is in your life that you want.

Your biggest goal right now should be to to improve yourself. You are only going to be able to fix your life by making a concious desicion. Every day of your life. If you are fat, ugly, dumb, whatever it is that you THINK is holding you back, it can be changed. It is going to take time and a whole lot of effort on your part. It can be done though.

PM if you want some help.

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success is my only mother fucking option, failure is not.

Man I feel sorry for you, I can relate a lot to what you are saying. Here's my advice, hope it helps you.

First of all, take responsibility for your life. As another poster on this thread has shown, and as plenty of other people in this forum and what is known as the community can show you, you can change your life. But it's something you have to do. And it's something that you have to understand is possible (which it is) and that you believe that. Do some research and find out about it. Read "The Game" by Neil Strauss if you haven't already. That's the best example, but only one of many.

So you'll need to make changes. Also realise that these changes won't happen overnight. From your position you can't read about PUA, go out and suddenly be THE MAN. It's going to take time and effort from you, and it will ask things of you that you didn't know you had. But ask yourself this: would you rather try and go through the effort of changing with the chance that your life will improve, or remain as you are with your life as it is? There is a cost for change, but there is also a cost for staying the same. Which payment do you want to make?
So it looks like you need to try something different. From another post it looks like you are just saying whatever you can think of at the time. There are specific things you can do to improve your chances. Do some research and find out what these are. Plenty of resources on this forum and elsewhere.
Bad things happen sometimes. You can sit there and replay them in your head time and time again, revisiting those horrible emotions, basing your story around how bad your life is. Or you can realise that right now, you are alive, you can consciously choose what you do next, you can practice any skill you want and get better at it over time, you can think a bit more positively. What would you rather do?
How important are these people to you? Do you know them? Can you control what they do? I'm guessing it's a not very, no and no, but please correct me if I'm wrong. Given that, although it might have been shocking when it happened, it has no lasting effect in the grand scheme of things (unless you replay it over and over again in your head). Try and separate your emotions of this event from what happened. If that's hard to do then try, this is a good skill to have and if you don't have it now you might as well start somewhere. If you can distance yourself from it, ask what you can learn from it. You might be able to see it as a turning point where you use situations like this in the future to try and find out how to be calm and relaxed.
Well I don't agree with your response, but as you rightly point out these people are cowards, the five of them didn't want to take you on. So how much value do they have? Pretty much none at all by my reckoning. What do you think?
How about if YOU gave your life a point, like, for example, learning to get good with women? Or finding out how to be sucessful in business. Improving your health. Learning a musical instrument or a new sport. Helping people in some way. Choose something but it has to be something that you do (and that you want to do). No one will do it for you, although you can ask people to help. Maybe you can help them in some way in exchange. But you have to choose something. What's it to be?

By the way, fate doesn't exist. And change happens all the time. Sometimes to you, sometimes by you. Which one should you worry about? (Clue: it's not the first one!).
Would they? Abraham Licoln was a twice-bankrupt failure at 40 and went on to become president. Plently of other examples out there, look at Ray Kroc. I'm 31 and didn't get my first hot girlfriend until I was 27. Even then she was a psycho. I didn't get my first stable and hot girlfriend until I was 30. You can do this too.

And like another poster said, don't compare yourself to others, compare yourself to yourself. Watch your progress develop over the months. My brother was always better than me at school and work. My friends always pulled the hot girls, including the ones I was after. That messed me up for a fair while. But I ended up earning more than my brother eventually. And I'm starting to get even better with women, though still not as good as my friends. Does that bother me? A bit, yes. But I can see the improvement that I've made, and that makes me feel a lot better.

Have fun, all the best.

Dude its NEVER too ate to learn! You dont have to be good looking to be a PUA so get that out of your head, infact most PUA's where nerds in their younger days. If you dont feel comfortable with yourself people wont feel comfortable around you. Some people think that being cool is hard but being cool is being happy with who you are! Dont give up!

Dude, I can honestly say that I feel your pain, but now is the time for some tough love, and (don't take this personally) I can say that with the utmost certainty: The only thing holding you back is yourself! Let me explain. You have done one of the most important things you ever could; admitting you have a problem. Now that you realize what your problem is, you have taken steps to correct it, and have sought out help in the form of this forum.
That being said, I can truthfully tell you that you that you are among friends! The mere fact that you were willing to take on 5 guys shows that you are no pussy, my friend![/u] I would even go as far to say that a lot of your problems would stem from inner conflict brought on by society as a whole stereotypically categorizing you as a "nerd". Although, on the other hand, would a "nerd" want to fight 5 guys to the (possible) death? I think not! And anyone who thinks otherwise, and I will quote Hobbit at this point.
Is a punk-assed, pussy-assed bitch in my book!(Yeah, I said it!) When someone is in dire need of assistance and comes to the community for help, help should be given to assist a fellow member of our community for the betterment of us all! (A chain is only as strong as its weakest link) And for someone to make statements such as the one I quoted;and yeah Hobbit, I mean you! Only serves to make us weaker as a community when we begin to prey upon each other and belittle our fellow members with legitimate concerns!
Resurrection08, I can honestly tell you I am your friend. Just as I am the friend of anyone on this forum.(I am by no means an expert in the art of pickup, but I have had a lot of success even before I began gaming women) If you need help with something please feel free to call me, or hit me on here and I am willing to help you with anything I can.

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Make the "Ho say no", remember fellas, a "ho" without any instruction is headed for self destruction!

Let them haters do their job, and you work their women like a job!

Don't talk so much, you'll make people hate you!

Try not to focus on the negative, eh? Easier said than done I know, but start somewhere.

RESSURECTION

What exactly is going on with you?
It's not just about chicks is it?
Can you describe how your life as a whole is going on?

We want to help you but we'll only be as efective as your can be realistic.