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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:25 pm 
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Alright, so you all list these things about what it means to be alpha, and they're true, but there's a huge thing that's left out. Being alpha is a matter of high sexual status, and as soon as you start doing it and HB chicks start noticing you, you gotta be THAT good - aka - displaying some qualities but lacking others sets u up for attack by other males

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I've been working out every day, running and lifting weights, for 9 straight months now and I'm looking really alpha. However, I'm on the major comeback and still hurting myself a little. I walked into this bar last night, and mentioned how my date didn't end with me getting fucked, and these two dudes just took that as a cue to rip me a new one. I didn't back down or anything, but these guys were wasted and it just escalated and escalated with fake friendship and me countering every fucking aggressive gesture put on me. It got tenser and tenser until the two of them made up some scenario about four hot girls wanting to have a margarita upstairs and us three going up there (they were really just setting up an ambush to jump my ass, i overheard them talking about it because they were so drunk). So I told them they should just have two girls appeice, got the, "u don't want to be friends then?" and replied, "no, i guess not" and left. I could have fought them well, but I'm not in high school here. I'm 27 and a businessman and doing that shit will fuck up your life at my age. U all relate or have any advice on this? + I didn't get laid, awesome


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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:32 pm 
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also, I could see how it could be an advantage to be shorter and have alpha qualities, its more subtle and attracts less attention. Chicks seem to like that. Me, I'm 6'3" so taller than 95% of dudes, now I'm muscular and weigh 210 pounds., I dress nice and wear gold necklace and expensive watch and sometimes a suit because I'm in sales, and it's not subtle at all. I can't naturally be subtle if I'm physically taller and bigger than most guys now. I get looked at by girls, but since I attract so much attention, I think they see me as attracting threats, so shorter more subtle guys go home with girls and I go home alone. Doesn't seem right I'm usually a chill guy


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also, I could see how it could be an advantage to be shorter and have alpha qualities, its more subtle and attracts less attention. Chicks seem to like that. Me, I'm 6'3" so taller than 95% of dudes, now I'm muscular and weigh 210 pounds., I dress nice and wear gold necklace and expensive watch and sometimes a suit because I'm in sales, and it's not subtle at all. I can't naturally be subtle if I'm physically taller and bigger than most guys now. I get looked at by girls, but since I stand out, I think they see me as attracting threats. Doesn't seem right I'm usually a cool, chill guy and deserve some nice pussy


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WOW, you are TALL... and have a problem with that. NOW THAT is a limiting belief.
Fuck... do you know how many guys wish they were tall? I bet your inner game is... i can't put this in a nice way... shit!?

I dunno man, height is a huge attractive factor!

SO, you had two guys trying to jump you for no reason? Btw. was there a question?

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Chris, i'm 6'3 too, and i think its the perfect height. Girls love tall guys, most girls i know will barely acknowledge guys that arent taller than them.
Use it to ur advantage, you know they are already noticing you b/c of your height, now just do some simple peacocking, like wear a bright colored dress/polo shirt. Or wear a white blazer over a colored T, that still looks classy.
Ive noticed that doing stuff like that, plus having the height, you often get reactions like, "i was wondering when i was going to get to talk to you".
Also, its great if you have some social value at the bar, cause girls will link that to what your wearing, and you'll automatically be more attractive to them, not based on looks at all.

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Me, I'm 6'3" so taller than 95% of dudes, now I'm muscular and weigh 210 pounds., I dress nice and wear gold necklace and expensive watch and sometimes a suit
they might think your a criminal.. no offence but in the netherlands guys with gold necklace's and an expensive watch wearing a suit are usally mob related.
try going out with jeans, a nice shirt and your watch this will most likely get more 'positive attention' so that you can show them your a cool and chill guy


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Me, I'm 6'3" so taller than 95% of dudes, now I'm muscular and weigh 210 pounds., I dress nice and wear gold necklace and expensive watch and sometimes a suit
they might think your a criminal.. no offence but in the netherlands guys with gold necklace's and an expensive watch wearing a suit are usally mob related.
try going out with jeans, a nice shirt and your watch this will most likely get more 'positive attention' so that you can show them your a cool and chill guy
lol ... are you saying I'm not attractive cause I'm in the mob? ... ugh

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depends what kind of girls your after


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not in the mob, I just like expensive things and money. so do girls, so i thought


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Brad -

It's good to meet a fellow six foot threer. Honestly, I'm not bad looking at all. I'm blonde, I guess being a blonde dude goes against me. I think my inner game is shit now and I subconsciously withdraw from people or say negative comments like walking into a bar and mentioning how i didn't get laid after a date. I had a very serious relationship with i guess u could say 'alpha female' a while back (she was a multi-millionaire heiress from bloomfield hills) and my whole life got fucked when she totally betrayed my ass. Before that my game was pretty good and i could play it cool all the time. Now, my game is pretty much fucked and I pick up girls only to ruin my chances. Help plleez I want my old self back and i think everyone else would prefer it too

Sucks that I have to write on the newbie wall. It's not like I'm new to the game, just new to this site

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Help plleez
What exactly do you want help with? Being tall is a good thing lol.

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Well first of all, I don't think posting on the newbie board is something bad for you. During your posts, I noticed some things that shows you are very insecure SPAM (no offence).
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I guess being a blonde dude goes against me.
I'm not the best English speaking on this forum, but it means it's unfavourable, right? In that case that's just bs, there's nothing wrong with being blond.
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I could see how it could be an advantage to be shorter and have alpha qualities, its more subtle and attracts less attention. Chicks seem to like that.
You are making excuses of yourself, stop doing that. If you were insecure about being short, OK, but I've never in my life heart a chick saying: 'I don't like tall guys.'
In fact, being tall is very useful. My 2 best friends are both about 0'3" taller than me and that's a big advantage for them. Even though my BL is a lot better than theirs, I always have to do or say something to get a girls attention where as they get attention naturally. So be proud about your length. Also, 6'3" isn't too long.
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I've been working out every day, running and lifting weights, for 9 straight months now and I'm looking really alpha.
What does that have to do with alpha? Alpha to me means: the leader of men, not the strongest. I don't know about your culture/friends, but I know a lot of non-muscular alpha guys and vice versa.


After reading your posts, I get the idea that you're not that much of an alpha guy, but that you're not willing to accept it. I could be wrong though, but if I'm not: stop lying to yourself, and just accept at which point you are. If you were that alpha, you wouldn't be bullied by your "friends".
We're all her to learn, so no one is judging you.

O, one tip: If you're good looking, tall and muscular, you don't have to wear a necklace just as my fellow dutch man la2499 said.


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Brad -

It's good to meet a fellow six foot threer. Honestly, I'm not bad looking at all. I'm blonde, I guess being a blonde dude goes against me. I think my inner game is shit now and I subconsciously withdraw from people or say negative comments like walking into a bar and mentioning how i didn't get laid after a date. I had a very serious relationship with i guess u could say 'alpha female' a while back (she was a multi-millionaire heiress from bloomfield hills) and my whole life got fucked when she totally betrayed my ass. Before that my game was pretty good and i could play it cool all the time. Now, my game is pretty much fucked and I pick up girls only to ruin my chances. Help plleez I want my old self back and i think everyone else would prefer it too

Sucks that I have to write on the newbie wall. It's not like I'm new to the game, just new to this site

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Yeah chicks can fuck a guy up good psychologically. I havent been messed up like that (yet, hopefully never), but i would think the best way to get back to normal is to cut yourself off from anything that reminds you of her. Like the movie "forgetting sarah marshall".
Or even use your situation as an opener, do an opinion opener and ask them what they think is the best way to get over a girl that tore out your heart and then crushed it.

good hunting bud.

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Being 6'3" is the shit.
As someone who battles mindset issues from time to time myself I would suggest working on my mindset to help associate being tall with being attractive. You can do this utilizing NLP by anchoring or reframing. Look at all the advantages being tall has compared to being short. As a fellow six threer I am proportianate and very happy with my physique.

It will be nearly impossible to attract HBs without confidence. Refocus and be thankful how good you have it. Being 6'3" and muscular is an accomplishment most people can't touch.


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Hey, many thanks to everyone who posted in response. I really appreciate your support in this sometimes dangerous game .

Since I'm somewhat anonymous on here, let me tell you all the situation. My last real ex (>1yr relationship; wealthy heiress type) disappeared from my life as I was entering an extra year (on top of an extra year due to mono) of college and almost all of my good peeps had left. Right as she did this, a dude loosely associated with her nearly choked me to death while I yelling, 'you want to fucking die' about to break my voicebox. Completely took me by surprise. He would have killed me if someone didn't whitness it, yell, and then call the cops. Why? I don't know. He was seriously nuts and my next door neighbor at the time, but this girl also had me in deep with many many secrets that I've never told a soul. But I apparently lost her trust when she betrayed me.

Anyhow, this translates to my game in that after all this crazy shit happened, I had to finish a year of college minus my girl who I spent all my time with and no real good friends around. This made everyone wonder who I was and if i was cool or not. I was also a little fucked up in the head from all the shit I had been through with this girl, getting betrayed by her, and almost getting killed by some dude. Keep in mind, this is a college town where everyone is having a good time. I never found anyone in that year that I could connect with. After that, my parents cut me off immediately and since I had no job yet, I had to move in with them. They railed my ass for eight months, and then after that I finally got out and moved in with six sorority girls back at my college town. I was overweight and actually think I couldn't even smile a real smile anymore. I thought they'd help me out and patch me up, but they just did their own things and i rarely saw most of them. They were also real nice to me in person and complete bitches about me behind my back. After that I ran from place to place until i finally got a real ft sales job that I had been trying to get since graduating (and probably couldn't because I looked so unconfident) and moved into a cool 20-something urban cool singles apartment type place in a cool major metro area. That's where I am now. During that job I was still overweight and looked like shit but I'm a hustler and I just kept going for it every day. I'm a killer salesman and did well, but that company made major cuts back fall and I left. Since then I've quit smoking and started running 3 miles a day and lifting weights and training to run a 10K race that's coming up in a week. Now I'm beginning to look really good again, but I have this wall of a below average fucking chump built around me still and my inner game is still a little week. I mean, c'mon, who in their lives has had to deal with something like this? Nobody would even consider it. So, i still have to break the wall. That's the only solution I need. That's why those dudes were fronting on me. I'm guessing they see me as the BAFC I looked like when I walked into this neighborhood and now that I'm coming back to at least look like my old cool self again (what they see as my new self) they don't get a rise out of seeing hot girls smile at me and me having a confident smile, ESPECIALLY because I'm 6'3", muscular, and good looking. So, that's where I'm coming from, you all know where I'm going and if you have anything at all you want to say to help, relate, or expand on, by all means do it. Thanks brothers


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