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after starting to give her the ignore SPAM would it b wise to start talkin to her to do this tho?



i had alrady mentioned to her that ppl dont change and actually told her a tru story of frnds in a rollercoaster relationship that ended in one of them breaking up for good.
shes not a virgin...

thnx guys for reading and leavin ur remarks.


i am a lil concerned about lying str8 up like that tho.

cause if i do end up in a real relationship w. her i dont wanna b like that. sure i play w. the truths when im gaming other girls but not usually w. girls im tryin to date.

She was a virgin before the guy she's having issues getting over. You misunderstood what I said. If she was a virgin before that one guy and only been with one guy, exactly how bad of a past could she have? I'd say little to none.

O man you are in shit deeply... She plays you how she wants, manipulates your feelings and i believe plays on your jealousy and you care not to lie. OMG... do you really want to get her?

Alright enough of the exchange of bullshit.
This is such a common situation, a common girl and it only requires knowing how her mind is working right now to fix it. Which is easy to pick apart.
She is clearly acting on emotions NOT logic. Right now her ex feels more RIGHT emotionally than you do. Youre goal is to change that. Logically you are better for her, she knows that but like i reinforced before, she is acting on her emotions.

For starters equip yourself with Speed Seduction and NLP.
Why you may ask? Because her conscious mind is a puddle of shit and the only way to easily to make her focus YOU is by instilling ideas in her head SUBCONSCIOUSLY. Her subconscious mind is VERY VERY VULNERABLE! USE IT!

Now, keep contact with her to a minimal, remember your answer should always be "no" to her. Tell her "you're nothing more to me than just a friend, so give me a reason why I should invest so much time in you? I like women who know what they want. And I'm sorry but you're just not that. Besides this XXXXX chick totally digs me more than you do".

At this point she'll try and think of reasons for you to see her. You're going to use the catstring theory now. YOU ARE THE STRING. SO DON'T DROP IT. You're answer should be "NO" again.

As for the minimal contact that you do make, when it is prearranged through friends, this is when you weasel in phrases to make her attracted to you. Destroy her boyfriend using the rollercoaster stories like people stated previously. Run patterns on WHAT A RELATIONSHIP FULL OF LOVE SHOULD BE LIKE. I can send you these, they are IN10SE's. And run patterns or stories on how fucked up her relationship with him is.

Now run visualization patterns that will conjure great feelings of emotions towards you. For example The Red Rose (it'd be a lot stronger anchor if you had a red rose nearby). Run this pattern. Tell her thats how it would HAVE been like if you chose me instead of youre ex. (Instilling guilt and the realization of loss).

Now here comes the fun and "Alpha" part.

This should take place as your final statement within the conversation.
Say something along the lines of this to her:
"But, don't worry I'm not attracted to you anymore. I was but it's gone now, so we can be casual friends before anything happened between you and me. It's better that way anyways. I like my freedom and I've already met a really cool chick. Now that we are casual friends I can come to you for advice for chicks. I mean after all, chicks are all psychologically the same right? *Cheeky smile and a little sarcastic laugh*. Anyways when I NEED (this is an embedded command) you to do anything for me, I'll let you know. See you later!"

And leave. You have flipped the position of her being in power over you to you having power over her. She knows you don't need her anymore. You have command over her because you will only adress her when YOU NEED HER! Isn't that great?

Now her emotions at this point will be: "Holy shit, my relationship is this fucked up with my ex, I could have had something so much better, and it's gone now."

Basically, this whole process is a different agenda'd/goaled October Man Sequence. You're bring emotions of pleasure by reading patterns of a healthy relationship. Bring the pain and anchor it to her Ex by telling the pattern of how unhealthy and rollercoaster like her relationship is. Bring even MORE pleasure with the Red Rose pattern and anchoring it to you.
Then you conclude it by telling her you basically can't have me, I've moved on, you blew youre chance with me. She will want you even more. Cat String Theory is in principle here.

At this point she will be obsessed with you. If done properly and said with a strong sense of frame and inner game. Now wait for the incessant number of phone calls and her wanting to initiate contact. For one of them just say "Hey! I said I would call you when I need you to do something for me. Be patient. *smirk/laugh*. Well whatever you have to say, make it quick because I'm busy".

This most likely should be her confession. If not, wait a little bit longer.

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I'm addicted to facing my fears.

I have the exact same problem right now.

I though about making up a story where a friend of mine had a girlfriend that dumped him and that he tried to get her back but she said to him that she loved him still "but it will never work again if you have broke up ones" (this should be said in a way that uses the principle of NLP) and that he had to go on.

He new a girl at the time that was interested in him but he would never consider her a girlfriend since she wasn´t his type when it comes to looks etc.

When they got to know eachother better he forgot about those things and they became a couple and they are still together after 5 years.


This story will propably not work in every case but I think I will try it.

In my case, there have been no discussions about relationship between me and her and she contacts me via msn or phone and we hang around and flirt and sometimes touch eachother in a way that can be described as playfully friendly.

Sorry for telling about my situation in your tread but I hope that people that experienced similar things have some advise

lol, soo this will just be a big communal pool of.. 'whyd she pick him, hes a loser, he beats her and sleeps around' and 'why dosent she pick me, id treat her right and make her feel more special'

I really dont need to go into depth here, you just werent as attractive an option as him. Get over it, if you move on you will be surprising everyone including yourself.. Or dont, and become a shivering pile of emotional dead weight. Your choice.

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'Oh my, you sir are the Moriarty of self awareness and personnal refelection'

What a title!

I can't believe I spent 20 minutes of my life posting on exactly what you should say to her.

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I'm addicted to facing my fears.

lol but it was a good read

Haha thanks I guess. He should really try it. It DHV and seduces her while anchoring bad feelings to the ex.
I try and mix up Speed Seduction and Mystery Method.
It's important to demonstrate high social value while creating attraction and pleasure in her subconscious mind. Honestly it makes SS a little bit less creepy because some of RJ's patterns are just straight fucking foward and weird.

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That is too direct for most girls. be sure to calibrate and choose your words wisely.

I would have ruined all my chances if I said that to the girl I like (that is also very attached to her ex)

Hmm I am a little disappointed everyone is being so take the middle road about this still contact her, do this to get her back. I'll tell you how to go to most likely get her back at least chasing you since this is a game forum but I really think u need to question yourself if shes worth all this and if you deserve to be treated like this man.

Is this a girl you really want. She is treating you like shit, she IS playing youa nd this other guy. She wants to have her cake and eat it to. The entire point of the game is to eventually meet the one. The girl that will show you qualities of integrity, flexibility (not physcially lol but thats nice too), and supportive and Hot and rich of course lol.

Does this girl have these qualities to you? Do you feel this is someone worth being with long term after all taht she has down to you? WHy are you still chasing her and dealing with her bullshit?

You want this girl back do this. Start dating someone new or start hooking up with new girls, ignore her 100% freeze the fuck out of her. I disagree whoever said that a freeze out will not work here on page 1. Yes she does have a back-up option but this is a college chick who has already shown him he is interested. These girls do not like bieng chased as you AND her ex are both doing. They want a challenge, they want someone self-confident. Stop giving her what she doesn't want. Be a challenge and freeze her out and while doing so start dating new people and let her know about it (its college nad u got mutal friends so I am sure you will).

If she calls u don't answer. You might think this is dumb to do, but stop failing her tests, the passing choice is to not respond to her texts. You need to start treating this girl like you don't care about her. Ever notice when you don't care about some chick you always get her its because you don't do all this stuff your doing now.

Give it 3 weeks. Let her call and text you. Don't worry she'll still be just as messed up in 3 weeks as she is acting now and you'll still have ur chance (And I know you are going to start worrying 3 weeks thats so long I might lose her in this time, relax you won't) IN this 3 weeks try to meet 1-2 new chicks out and hang with them some. If shes at a party with you, be nice say hello, tell her your doing great and thats it. Don't ask her how she is doing that shows ur to interested. Don't show her interest, don't try to talk about anything deep. Light and simple man.

A freeze out is built for this situation this is exactly where you want to use it 100%. Some people it seems may disagree but this is definitly where you will notice a response.

GIrls want what they can't have especially at that age man, I just graduated college a few years ago and I'm telling you if I was in the same sitaution (although tbh I would prob drop this girl) I would have done:

1.) Freeze out from phone, AIM, Text, Facebook, Gchat. No replies to anything she sends you

2.) If I see her at a party I be nice show her i'm doing great then I would go use some opinion opneers on new chicks, or go dominate beer pong or keg stands or whatever is going on at the party

3.) Hang out with some new chicks in this period to make her jealous, increase your social value. Meanwhile her ex will still be crying to her and trying to get her back.

4.) Talking to her ex = Bad idea imo. Why would u ever talk to a chicks ex boyfriend while your both trying to hook up with her. Shes just gonna drop u both for someone who is more of a challenge, alpha and doesn't care or wanna deal with her bullshit, Right now shes having her cake with both of you unitl someone new coems along.

5.) After 3 weeks, start re-escalating slowly with her. The first time you hang out DHV DHV DHV, Show her NO FEELINGS for her, dont' give her shit, let her chase you. Half ignore her too. if theres a pong game or the guys are all doing something ditch her to go hang with them and talk to them, then pop back if you want or better yet talk to her freinds (don't hit on them but just be social) let her come up to u and re-initate contact. Tease her also, also no heavy talks. I prefer to just ignore the boyfreind if she brings him up ignore it if she brings him up a 2nd time then toss in the 3 BF destroyer routines, if she brings it up a 3rd time punish her with a neg or freeze out, show her you are not playing this game.


I posted all this to be constructive not to be a dick but this is really how I feel man. I know heartbreak hurts. I think shes sorta playing you and no one desreves that and your just letting her and being somewhat AFC. The quicker you stop caring about her (or at least acting like it) the faster she will chase you back. I bet my life on it thats how girls work in the 18-22 age range, they want what they cant have that everyone else wants. Thats why your alpha always wins initlaly because hes a challenge and confident. he woudlnt' deal with this shit and she would chase him for it. Her ex will keep being mushy and lulling around and he will eventually get dropped when she falls for someone else. Until then she will keep him around to hook up with and to validate her.

-Invincible

by the way, your free to disagree and your free to do what you want. But why come herre and post for advice if your gonna listen to your heart and not your head.

A lot of the stuff here people are posting for a reason because it works. Its hard to ignroe someone you like. You beging to question if it will work and question if she will ever still be there or meet someone in that 3 week period.

Also remember bro its college, enjoy your time there theres prob soooo many other chicks to slay then just her with 100x less drama and hotter and will treat you and your heart better. If you think of her and get weak over this 3 week period come here and read some esepcially on sarging that will help u deal with a flair up of weakness at least it has helped me in the past.