Hi all, I am wondering if there are guidelines for guys who sarge guys. I bet there would be slightly different methods, techniques, and Abbreviations. Does the HB scale apply? Of course, I am not gay. But i might have a friend who thinks he could be.

-AG

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Interesting question. They say 1 in 20 blokes are gay, yet i am shocked that this type of subject has not appeared on any forums i have viewed in the last few weeks on PUA.

So for the methods, I would imagine some of them would quite similar. The confidence, the openers would be easy enough. The inner game and the psychology of the mind would be the problem. From my learning with RJ, the female mind has 4 layers. I would be interested in how many a bloke has, i suspect 1 as we tend to me more simple than women.

I think this image proves the point :

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Good luck with the question tho. Looking forward to the answer!

Robert Greene wrote an excellent book on Seduction that I think can apply to both sexes. There will be some variations to consider since the female mind does work differently than a man, but I highly recommend you read the book because it covers basic human behaviors that can be used to your advantage, or should i say your friends advantage.

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There's a bisexual PUA (probably mPUA - he's got a pretty big rep) over at mASF (fastseduction.com) who goes by LunarFault. His game is very tight. I'd seek him for this kind of advice if I were you.

serious, it's my friend. And just maybe ok?

I'll be sure to forward these replies to him.

LOL

well generally guys are less complicated then girls
so I'm guessing it's easer when applying the same skills set with women

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I am glad I am not good looking enough for some gay to try and pick me up. I think the best place for gays to pick up other gays is in a gay bar. That is my suggestion for you I mean your friend.

hi, i'm a bit in a similar situation, i'm bi, but...i'm female. I would like to find out seduction techniques that apply to both sexes. please don't give up, pua and the universe of seduction are based on psychology, and i'm convinced everyone is potentially able to seduce anyone, for temptation is everywhere, BUT barriers, taboos, are also present almost everywhere, which is why 90% of human interactions don't go very far.

Am I the only one who get sick of the entrenched misandry in the current gender roles? Even a guy here says "we are more simple". Simple doesn't necessarily have a negative denotative definition, but it certainly has a bunch of horrible connotations, such as retarded, slow, immature, unsophisticated, inferior.

Maybe men are just more ... refined ... or ... perfected.

Just something about calling myself "simple" insults my intelligence.

I'm not trying to jump in your shit, I am just so sick of the fucking entrenched misandry.

Statistically speaking, men are smarter than women. Proven fact when it comes to raw IQ. We really aren't "simple". We just aren't "fucking nuts".

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+1 Mack, We as men have a lot of shit going on, I recently said something about all the pressure (social, economical, sexual etc.) we have to deal with.

The simplest solution I could think of for this is ask myself how would I like to be picked up? not just by a gay guy but by women as well.

I like a lot of small instant "rewards" throughout escalation, otherwise I wont work any harder for example I rather receive several "sly" kinos than a guaranteed f-close anyday. So if you can "treat" your guy (verbally for a while until you're sure not to scare him away with kino in case he's bisexually unsure.) throughout the conversation he'll stick around not because its obviously gay attraction but because you're good to be around of. Actually last night I talked philosophy with this dude after starbucks was closing for like 3 hours and I just found out by the end he was gay yet he had a more Alpha air to him than me, I thought that was cool.

It also depends a lot on your target...I have NO idea the different types of gay characters but I would imagine they are just as varied than the different types of girls.

In any case, you have your first gay-curious target lol Anyway, cheers for summoning up some courage and going for it, best luck to you!

Edit: Oh man I just saw this is from 2008!

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"Nah man, I love women, they are beautiful and delicate...
but I still warm up to "99 Problems" before approaching" lol

Correct me if Im wrong but I think David Wygant has a lot of material specific for Women's use, good luck! GO BI GIRLS!

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"Nah man, I love women, they are beautiful and delicate...
but I still warm up to "99 Problems" before approaching" lol

so true, everyone is complicated in their own way. the fact is that many people live surrounded by people of their own gender, and interact with the opposite sex only with romantic/sexual intentions, having lots of friends of the opposite sex really helps understanding human beings in more complete way. i can say, i have complicated male friends, as many as complicated female friends, claiming men are simple and women are complex is really inaccurate.

really, thanks so much, i'll check his works

I actually just got finished watching a documentary on Channel 4 online about you guys and I thought it was interesting. I am gay and I was wondering about these techniques and so I found your website... this post in particular on Google.

Someone brought up the difference between gay men and women and how men are more simple; I have to disagree. Recent studies have shown that gay men's brains actually have more in common with the female brain than the brains of straight men. The Washington Post has an article on it
Much more on that if you do a Google search.

So I think if these methods were applied to gay men you wouldn't have to change much. Yes there might be slight changes but the basic psychology involved should be able to be applied in the same way.

I think I am going to study more on this and find out on my own if these techniques will work with gay guys.