I found out about the PUA community not long ago when I started reading 'The Game' by Neil Strauss. Since then I have found this site and started taking in so much information I am getting completely overwhelmed. Openers, negs, DHV... So far I haven't even gotten a single number close. I don't even know where to start. At this point I feel like I may as well give up. I have noone to sarge with. I am always by myself (or with afc friends). I seriously need help or it may be over for me.

You sound very similar to myself - you are not in to all the mechanical. systematic stuff and want a more natural method. Don't get me wrong this stuff is important in club game but if you're just looking for general day game you may want to consider natural alternatives to that teach you the core mechanics of attraction so you know how to naturally present yourself in a way that sets off a woman's attraction triggers.

A natural seducer is an alpha male who doesn’t choose who he flirts with — he’s charming to all women (like James Bond) because he shows honesty and respect towards women. Women will open themselves up in amazing ways to a man who is sincere and respectful, knows what he wants, and doesn't mask his desires as a man.

- Chris

Were to start?

From the beginning..Just open girls everywhere...You dont need to sarge to meet new people.

You are losing your faith in PU arts? PU requires commitment and willpower. Losing faith in PU is almost like losing faith in yourself.

Have you been opening sets? How many of them? Do you think you have a sticking point?

You mention "so much information"...Information never helped me picking up a girl...the only one thet helped me was myself. Just use the info thet you require at the moment, take a "one step at the time" aproach. You dont have to remember everything everytime: successful PUAs usually start training stuff until they can do it like a reflex.

Information does help...but information never is going to make you open a set.

Without properly being taught the information a person will fail at every set they open - they will be no better than they were as an AFC. Moreover, I know many people who were too nervous to approach a set (after learning MM) and their body language and speech were not congruent with what they were saying. There is a lot of inner game work that needs to be done before the outer game can be solid.

- Chris

If you're young like myself 18-25, this should help.
If you want # closes, # closes you shall have.
Open girls who work in shops. Its not hard, not like they can just walk off or ignore you. It only takes a brief conversation and ask them if they would like to go out sometime.
Forget nightgame, if you want instant results thats not the way. Unless you already have enough in the bag to able to get the girls in nightgame. Thats for practice.
Next check your inner game.

PM if you would like further advice.

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With that I meant to say that reading a lot wont help you, unless you put yourself out there on the field.

Never give up man. Just put some more effort. There is always way if there is will.

This shit is not easy, but we are here to help u.

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" You see her , you want her , GET HER "

Well I decided not to give up but I am certainly a long ways off from success.

You need help with your inner game. That seems to be your main issue right now. Find a purpose in life that drives you. Find a hobby you enjoy. Make yourself enjoyable person to associate with. Approach people. Women can sense if you don't have confidence, and by you wanting to quit, you lack confidence.


If you give up now, never complain about how women diss you and how some chick dumps you for some asshole. You'll know exactly why and didn't have the balls to do it yourself. Do you want to be that guy? Suck it up, stop acting like a whiney bitch and pull yourself together. Alpha males don't talk about quitting. We talk about working harder and becoming better individuals.