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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 5:56 am 
Mystery really hits on this, and I fully agree.

Girl's don't like the obvious to happen...they like to be put in a situation where sex "accidently" occurs.

Best example. Lets say you are PU at a bar. You have entered the rapport stage, and maybe even kiss closed her by now. You feel you have a chance for fools mate, or to even bed her that night. What do you say to get her home? FYI: This gave me troubles for quite sometime.

AFC, "Hey, would you like to go back to my place, and maybe makeout or something?"

This is so obvious of an invite, that if the girl goes to your place, and has sex, she has no reason to justify to her friend that she was not acting slutty...

PUA might say "Hey, today I just got a bunch of really cool pics from my spring break in Aspen, would you like to check them out?"

Now she has a valid excuse to her friends at the bar, and the next day why she went to your place. If you end up making out...she still can "plausibly deny" that she meant to have sex that night. I'd advise to think up two or three "excuses" pending on the situation, so you have something to drop.


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 Post subject: Good Post, Darius!
PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:35 pm 
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Absolutely!

Subconsciously they may want to make out, but women don’t like it to be obvious! I see this as part of a Big Game – and women seem to love playing it. But most guys don’t even know about it!

Good post! 8)


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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 5:07 am 
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Yeah thats some good advise.
but still do think women would still be able to pick up the slight subttleness in that of the guy trying to get her back to his place to screw?
i guess it just depends on the person and the situation ha.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:32 am 
I like Juggler's "Want to come back to my place and watch the cat do backflips?" I wish my cats did backflips.

I don't think it's so much that a girl doesn't want the obvious to happen as much as she doesn't want to be responsable for the steps that ensure sex happens. She doesn't want to feel like a slut by getting into your car (or onto the train, or walking or whatever) to get to your house just to have sex. She wants there to be something else she can tell her friends, something that doesn't have SLUT written across it. She'll sleep with you, but she doesn't want to feel like a whore while she's doing it.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:22 pm 
yah, depends on the situation

I´ve been quite forward before but after reading this stuff i´m definatley going to change my booring; " lets go to my place an party/drink some moore blablabla" for something funny like " lets go to my place an watch the cats fight/ hey, my freind just recorded the last twenty episodes of the bold & the beautiful, wanna go to my place check them out", mayby followed by a more serious; " No, but lets (we could) go to my place, youll have a hell of a lot more fun with me than if you go home"


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:55 am 
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Always have a copy of the latest cool movie to come out on DVD around. This can be VERY plausible-sounding when she tells her friends why she went home with you. She doesn't sound like a slut if she says, "I just went over to watch SUPERBAD with him and one thing led to another we wound up sleeping together."


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This is one thing I have a problem with actually. I don't really have a lot of interesting stuff around the house, the DVD idea is gold though! I had a FB a while ago and that all started off with her coming over to watch sin city... I was shocked she hadn't seen it and you know what, she still hasn't. ;)


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Yeah thats some good advise.
but still do think women would still be able to pick up the slight subttleness in that of the guy trying to get her back to his place to screw?
i guess it just depends on the person and the situation ha.
It doesn't matter. They want sex anyways. The issue at hand is how to introduce plausible deniability into the dynamic. And yes, i would say every girl that ever came over knew exactly what she was getting into. So what. They want it. And if they don't show it, i like to tell them that i don't think they want it bad enough. This makes them a little less shy without overtly discussing sex, which is a turn-off.

I like the photo routine.

My favorite is to have girls come over and cook for me. :D
The typical routine is she comes over, i give short tour of place, then we leave to walgreens or whatever to buy parmesan cheese or spaghetti (which i convinently "forgot i ran out")
Now, when she comes back to the house, she's more comfortable bc she already know what to expect. So while water is boiling we watch some silly YouTube videos laying on my bed while listening to her fav music or whatever. Then we leave the room to kitchen. Now, when we come BACK to the bedroom where we are to watch the movie, she is more comfortable than the first time she was there.
I can't remember how many half-watched movies i've seen

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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:18 am 
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movies or episodes of TV shows like Entourage are great
believe it or not i've also successfully used "lets go to my place and play some rock band" or "i'm totally gonna kick your ass at wii tennis, c'mon let's go"


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:55 pm 
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Ya, I d say women don't die for sex, subconsciously they know that's what is gonna happen if they follow u home but they prefer that u rather give them excuses to fool themselves with "it's not gonna be just sex".

A woman would rather go to a man's house and have a fun time and THEN move to sex.After they have a fun time and u prove them for once again that u are the fun guy they desire they will move to sex and afterwards feel satisfied.

On the other if they follow u home and immediately you move them to sex they won't feel that satisfied.
You will just be a kinda fun guy they met at a bar and made out with them.

So, I think the reason they WANNA be fooled is so as to sustain hope that something different might happen when they go at your place.
Something interesting, something fun, something other than sex.Something unusual.

So, I would say that unless one can make the time before sex at his apartment interesting, he can always make sex itself interesting.

Of course there will always be horny women that-thanks to our incredible skills-just wanna fuck us all ways... still, spending some creative fun time with with a girl before or at the time of sex can prove usefull...



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 4:43 pm 
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Spot on ... besides, it's easier for her to turn you down with such a blatant line like, 'wanna come back to my place?'

Anything - even the most ridiculous - that justifies why she had sex with you will do in the morning.

"He wanted to show me his striped cat"

"We were just going to pop some corn!"


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Innnteresting.

I used to pull a lot at lawn parties we would have at a house that I shared. Things like

"This music is killing me... You want to come upstairs and help me burn a CD?" Music is a window into a woman's soul, so you can learn a lot by letting her pick the songs. Make sure you've got a broad variety, and some good stuff that she likely hasn't heard of to DHV.

or

"You've got to check out these amazing pictures of *somewhere exotic*... it's one of the most incredible places I've ever been." Again, allowing you to DHV.

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