Hello All,

I feel quite awkward on posting on a forum because I've never done this before, but I am going out of my mind on what I should do with my current girl situation, and I thought I give it a try and get some feedback from people who has been there and experienced it before.

The Problem:
I fell for this girl (Patty) the moment I saw her and now we've basically known each other for over a year and a half. We've established a strong friendship to the extent that she considers me one of her best friends (she has three). About three months ago I finally told her how I felt about her, two months later she broke up with her boyfriend for the first time. I tried to take my chance but she told me she really needed a friend at the time. Not wanting to be the rebound, I aided her through her problem, making sure she wasn't alone and alright. I became the puppy dog. We later attended a festival that we usually attend every year (Community festival in our area) and bumped into her ex-boyfriend. I felt bad for the man cause he purposely came by himself to see her at the festival, so I invited him to walk around with us. He than asked if he could take her home and I brought Patty to side to make sure she was comfortable with it, which she was. From that day on, they've talked and now they're back together. She came down to my dorm the day after to make sure I was alright. When I said I wasn't she teared up and tried to get an answer to if our friendship would still last. I told her it would be okay and i would still be her friend, which I have been showing the past week, until three days ago. I am upset everytime I see her, only because the fact that she IS my dreamgirl, yet I can only be her friend. So I avoided her for a bit. She later called me tonight and when I returned her call, she wanted to catch up with me cause she hasn't seen me. She also wanted to know if everything was alright. She was heading out with the family, possibly her boyfriend after translating her talk with her mom over the phone. I love the friendship I have with Patty and I know it would really upset her if I were to take a break from the friendship. I really don't want to do that to her. I need advice and opinions on what I should do.. be the friend? (I'm hoping they would break up again, and i'll have a second chance) or.. play the hard to get game. (which could ruin a friendship that I've really enjoyed.) ?

For those of you who are interested here the story of how I met Patty..

Was it a coincidence?
About a year and a half ago, I finally made my way into a four year university after spending two years at a local community college. I walked into orientation looking for the designated table i was assigned to when I spotted this very attractive woman (PATTY - nicknamed because I feel like Doug, and she resembles Mayonaise's personality.). I told myself that I was going to make an effort to talk to Patty. Overall, my friend's know me as a very shallow guy and to make things worst, I am also very shy, so making this effort to meet Patty was a huge obstacle for me to overcome. I idiotically sat at the table next to hers, and spent a good 15 minutes getting up and down for refreshments, each time coming back to my table saying "Alright I'ma sit at her table this time." After the 5th time, I heard my name coming from her table. Haha, my friend was sitting and chatting with Patty the whole time. How moronic of me. My friend invited me to come over and sit with them. After a proper introduction between me and Patty, my friend had to leave because her group was called to leave. So I started with the ordinary questions when you meet someone new, "So where did you transfer from?" Turns out she transfered from the same community college I came from. No biggie, just a coincidence my community college was pretty big. I then asked "Oh really? Which high school did you attend and what year?" Patty did not only attend the same community college but attended the same high school and graduated the same year, but failed to ever meet each other during our years there. We then got into the subject of teachers and who were our favorites until her group was called to leave. I never did get her number that day, as I wanted.. and my friend told me she was taken, I thought that would probably be the last time I'll see her.

Round Two:
The first day of the class has begun, and I am a new transfer student attending my first class in Physics. As I looked around the huge lecture hall I spotted Patty walking in. She walked up to my row and sat three heads to my right never ever noticing me. At the end of class I decided to confront her and say "Hi." She did not recognize me, until I told her about orientation day. She gave me a cheerful smile and suggested we should sit together next class. From that day, I never found Patty in my class again, so I gave up again..

Third is the Charm?
So I'm walking towards the sub shop at the University's Diner area when I spotted a pretty attractive girl through my peripherals. It looked like she was looking at me and as being the shy guy I am, I was afraid to look back. I got in line at the sub shop and I noticed the girl came behind me. I turned around to see why was this girl following me and it turned out to be Patty. She gave me the "I thought it was you.." comment, and I joked with her about the stalking girl I thought she was. We both ordered our sub, and I suggested joining her. Everything was fine that evening, except the fact that she was calling me by ANOTHER NAME. I didn't correct her until half way in our meal, haha she was so embarassed (every now and then bring up that moment, just to tease her). But another thing I found out was that the lady literally lives right behind me. How did I miss out on this girl this past 6-7 years? I did get her number that evening.. and that was when we started our friendship.

Funny thing is that this school year, she was placed one floor above me in the same building. Haha, still a coincidence? We've been hanging out alot more, going out for dinner/lunch, gym, movies (both out or rental), mall, and even bars.

My IOIs..
1. While driving back from a mall she wanted to go to, she turned to me and asked me "Are you seriously single? I find it hard to believe you're single?"

2. She asked me to go see Saw 3 with her, then commenting "This is the movie series me and my boyfriend usually go see together since it was the first movie we watched together." In my mind I was thinking, so why isn't here here watching the third?

3. She asked me to watch a couple more movies where it's just me and her.

4. She complains about her boyfriend problems, and one time said "I wish I could break up with him, but I'm basically stuck now since it's been 2 years, plus I don't know if I want to be single."

5. During a time at the bar she placed her hand over mine and kept it there. I soon brushed it off feeling that it was awkward that she still had a boyfriend. She still gave me a smile afterwards.

6. Earlier in the night I told her about how I felt about her (after coming back from a movie/diner at 2:00AM) she was cold and I gave her my jacket to wear. She walked over to a fogged up car and drew a heart. As she walked off I decided to write her name down next to the heart. She soon realized what I was doing and ran back saying "I'm not gonna be the only one blamed for this." and wrote my name next to hers. We walked off and she gave another glance at the fogged up window we wrote on, she then commented that our name together can be a single name.

7. When I told her how I felt, she mentioned "If anything, I think you're cute."

8. She text me the day she broke up with her boyfriend.

Her Confrontation After She Got Back With Her Ex:
Last week she came down to my room and suggested we should "talk." This was how the conversation went..
Patty: "So what's wrong?"
Me: "What's wrong?"
Patty: "Well you've been acting strange lately and I'm getting really worried about you."
Me: "What are you talking about and how so?"
Patty: "Well you act differently around me now, your tone of voice has changed and it's not like you. Also everytime we hang out, you can't even look at me. I'm getting really worried about our friendship cause I value it more than anything."
Me: "Okay? What do you want me to say to all this?"
Patty: "I just want you to be honest with me, tell me what's going on."
Me: "I like you? I don't know? What do you want me to say?"
Patty: "Say anything, I want to know you're okay with all this."
Me: "Alright? So you want me to say 'I don't like you, and I'm okay?'"
Patty: "Yes?"
Me: "Well that's not the case.. I've liked you the day I met you, and I all that isn't gonna instantly go away. Just give me some time, I'll be fine."

She then teared up and put her head down, and mimic the way I say "idiot" under her breath.. I laughed and said "Damn you're gonna steal my phrase also?" She looked up and smile, and I told her that everything is gonna be fine, I'm still going to be her friend. I guess that was what she wanted to hear from me, cause we then just started talking about our past year and a half of friendship. In the middle of all this, she mentioned that I have took the comfort level she had with me away when I told her how I felt." She considered me as one of her best friend, which really hurt when she told me that. I later found out that evening that she had called one of my friends, which she rarely talks to. What Patty had asked her over the phone was if I was okay. She then told my friend that she's been crying over the past nights cause she had felt bad for my current position, because she has gotten back with her boyfriend (which she never told me). My friend told me they had talked for a while about me.. my friend also told me that she had asked Patty, "What if he unexpectedly kiss you one night?" I was told Patty responded with a nervous laughter and saying "I don't know what I would do." My friend then preceded with the questions, "Well would you be mad at him?" Patty never answered the question, she just laughed and soon changed the subject.

AM I RETARDED?! DID I BLOW MY CHANCE?! If soo, can I still hope for another?

Thank you for taking the time to hear me complain...

Welcome to the world of pickup artists, imageFILE. We do things differently around here.

First, for clarification: Those aren't IOIs. Don't worry, though. We'll show you the ropes.

Get prepared to change your life. Let me tell you, this is going to be a very dramatic change of your entire lifestyle, but it's all going to be for the better. It's going to improve your life in literally every way possible (I'm serious) and you will end up in a position where you have CHOICE in your love life. You will be the chooser, not the chosen.

However, there is a price to pay. It won't necessarily be a monetary price, but I'm not going to lie. This is going to take a lot of work. It's going to take commitment, dedication, and an ability to have a clear vision of the bigger picture even through the dark times. Are you man enough to strenuously work toward a positive and gradual change?

Your beliefs will be challenged, destroyed, changed, and replaced. Your ego shall be beaten to a bloody pulp. You will be making yourself do things you have never done before, and never even imagined yourself doing before. You will be approaching dozens upon dozens of strangers - attractive women you don't know - and you will be rejected an unrealistically countless number of times.

This process of change may take months, even YEARS, to take place. It will take not only dedication, but patience. You will have to be willing to deal with frustration, being frustrated with nearly every aspect of your identity.

In the end, you shall rise from the ashes, reborn a new man, enlightened and powerful. Are you man enough to take on this challenge?

I, myself, have been in this community since 2003. Yes, I've gone through a lot of what I've described above, and I've still got a long way to go before I achieve what I want to achieve. However, the progress I've made since I've started has been death-defyingly phenomenal. I hope you choose to join us PUAs on this challenging journey of self-actualization.

If you choose to take the blue pill, best of luck to ya. Now, get out of here, Chode.

If you choose to take the red pill...welcome to the deeper parts of the rabbit hole. From now on, STOP THINKING AND WORRYING ABOUT PATTY. Just be normal around her and keep her completely out of your mind. It is time to shift your focus on more productive things. It is time to shift your focus on yourself. It is time to really start caring about and loving yourself. It is time to CHANGE and IMPROVE.

Read David Deangelo's material, such as his ebook "Double Your Dating." Do Svengali's Newbie Mission. What is the newbie mission, you ask? It basically involves going out to a populated public gathering, such as a mall or shopping center, and saying "hi" to EVERY woman within hi-able distance. Make eye contact and smile as you are doing this. (Original source: http://fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/search ... 6124580572)

Some women will scoff and just keep walking along. Some won't react in any way at all. Some will smile and say "hi" back. Some may actually stop to converse with you. Whatever happens, just don't worry about it right now. Your current goal shall be to simply say hi. I'd aim for about 100 women if I were you... in ONE afternoon. Don't beat yourself up if you don't make the 100 mark, though. I'm just throwing out an estimated number to reach for.

Get back to us when you've done this.