Wrong. There has to be a lot more there than just her looks. You don't even have to neg her at all. There is more to pickup than "neg neg neg neg" you all seem to forget everything you read after you're done reading it. It's a little disturbing to be honest with you.

You all very well capable of performing a pickup without negs. There are so many things available to you other than negs.

I'd like to set a challenge to you all. Do 5 pickups in the next week without negging at all. See how much your results differ. I can almost bet they won't change at all.

I agree with ryan. When i go out and sarge i actually will go without verbally negging a girl. I may turn my back on her or take attention away which are subtle clues of disintrest, but i hardly ever use a neg. Use a neg to bring her off her pedestal. But that doesnt mean do it to every one you approach. Some times a girl is already into you 1 minute into the conversation. Meaning no reason to bring her value down more or at all.

It is impossible to help someone with low self esteem, or any problem what so ever, unless they want to fix it for themselves. This means you can't make them want it to make you happy, they have to want it to make themselves happy, even if that means the thing that will make them happy is external, like fixing their issue will get them the job they want, which would make them really happy. If they don't want it for themselves, then no amount of you wanting them to be better and trying to help them will work.