hey yall
i went out to amsterdam last night
i wasnt interested in anything, i just wanted to talk to a lot of girls

I did, i talked to almost every girl or set i saw
but the girls were like: "there he is again"
and i walked next to 2 girls on the street and i went like hey, how are you doing
and the girl went to her friend and said omg he's so desperate
and i was like and walked off to a friend of mine
and the female friend of the girl i talked to yells to me "yeh fuck off you loser !"

and basically i get this a lot, i just wanted to know if you guys experience this aswell and how to get over this

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Failure was never an option


Because girls don't like sex.. Yeah RIGHT!
Why else do you think girls have P*ssies

Are you using the Mystery Method? It is a very poor method on it's own if you're not a nautral and you don't have someone to guide you. Attracting women is a lot more than what you say - one of the primary principles I teach my students is that actions speak louder than words. You need to define and own your reality and control it.

In the overall scheme of things it has a lot less to do with how you say than how you present yourself. Myself (as well as many people I've talked to) have opened girls with a simple "hi how you doing" during street game. Girls don't call guys desperate just for introducing themselves - there had to be something else to make them see you as desperate.

That is a feeling I can completely relate to. In high school I was so shy that I was afraid to ask an attarctive girl what the math homework was. I can make stuff work now that girls would've fucked me over on years ago because I know how to present myself congruently with whatever I say. Girls are world class body language readers and can generally read a guy like a book and tell if he's nervous or incongruent with what you are saying. at least 5-10 guys probrably come up to these women a day asking how they are doing.

- Chris

Was this in a club? If so, how busy was it? If girls see you walking around talking to all the other girls and they don't appear to be interested in you, then you've completely fucked yourself. Easiest way to avoid this is to set your standards higher, so instead of talking to every girl/set you see, aim for the ones you like best.

I dunno what you're talking to all these girls about but if you aren't lively and showing them a good time, then move to another group, it looks like you're moving on because they've blown you out. Girls notice these things and if you make a bad impression or you're just plain not interesting then other girls who saw that interaction will automatically think less of you and will blow you out as soon as you approach, just like what you described. Guys who float around clubs talking to all the girls appear predatory and/or needy, like they've only gone out to get laid. Talk to one girl or group, have fun with them then excuse yourself or introduce them to your friends and play some drinking games. Don't ask them lots of questions or talk about anything boring, they're out to have fun - so have fun with them.

Girls in clubs are usually full of energy, enjoy attention and will do pretty much anything you tell them. And believe me, if girls see you getting hugs and kisses, twirling girls around and having fun with them, they'll all want a piece of it. You'll be getting a lot of eye contact from other girls, which will give you a reason to approach them. It's all about being the prize - the best looking girls don't walk around talking to all the guys hoping they will like them; they know guys want them so they don't need to. Likewise, you know girls want you, so you can choose the ones you want and stick with them, right?

I have personally never experienced some thing like that before. The worst thing that has happened to me thus far has been being laughed at when I used the "Who Lies More?" opener.

It's not what you say, it's how you say it. Vocal tonality, body language and word choice can completely change whether someone sees you as needy, into someone seeing you as confident and casual.

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~ Rye

it was not in a club, it was at night streetgame only cuz all the fuzz was outside
it was really busy and basically there were large groups of people throughout the town and people walking everywhere
in the beginning of the night at about 10.30 pm things were going real fine i must say, i wasnt tired yet and i had fun talking to those girls ans i didnt have any AA whatsoever and everyone was just nice
at about 12 pm i started to get tired and i lost having fun in convo's eventhough i told myself i had to do more and it was fun and i thought the girls were hot so i kept going but without the right set of mind
i guess girls could see this by my body language
thats why i kept screwing up in the end i think
cuz i had great fun in the beginning of the night with a lot hotter girls than those who rejected me
i kinda do think its a bummer because some of those girls might know friends of mine who study there, i hope they will never find out i made such of a donkey out of myself there

peace

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Failure was never an option


Because girls don't like sex.. Yeah RIGHT!
Why else do you think girls have P*ssies

Yeah by 12 the girls where more drunk and out spoken. Although that is a great place to sarge. Why not focus your attention on daygame and stationary targets. (Its easier) Girls dont expect guys to chat them up in the day and aren't out with their friends getting drunk.
Just use nightgame as practice.
But here's the trick, DONT SARGE, fit picking up girls into your daily lifestyle. You dont have to open any sets, but if you do thats great. Then there's no pressure and will make you appear less needy.

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theres a thread somewhere in here about it and with it tht opening will work, but dont talk to EVERRYYYY girl out there tht lowers ur value

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