I'm confident with getting numbers and emails.

But one thing is, I can get IoI's all throught the day 1 encounter. Then when I call them 2 days later I get "Oh I'm busy all week".

On msn with another girl I say "meet me at 5 under the clock" I get "sorry can't make it I'm busy all day" (we had already arranged meeting at some point on monday)

I ask "when are you available", "I'm kinda busy right up to my exams" ( No mention of this 3 days ago on first encounter!!)

After another two atempts to arrange, I leave her a message. "It's obvious you don't want this to happen, I might see you in town someday, good luck with your exams."

How can I prevent this kind of shit? Its ridiculous! They're mad for me one minute, leave them on their own and they just seem completely disconnected.


My phone and internet convos last roughly 30 seconds too two minutes, so I don't think I'm seen as needy.

Any ideas or articles I can study? This is driving me nuts!

try not to ask, do the same thing you do for a 1st day by sayin u going to do something and she should come along...if she don't your going to do it anyway like meet some friends for coffee...problem is, if she comes make sure u have friends to actually do what u said you were going to do

also try to invite them to something fun your already doing, sometimes they like that better. like "hey im goin go-karting with some friends next saturday and we both know you like goin fast haha, why dont you come along?" or somethin like that. assuming you know she likes speed for w/e reason. you get my drift? try to relate an activity to something you guys have in common, but isnt focusd around you two

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yeh i completely agree with PrettyBoy, something fun and low pressure is ideal. iv had problems with this recently too and im starting to overcome this with the help of a little C&F routine:

"ok so we got two options here: we could continue this awesome phone/AIM/facebook relationship [which ever applies to the situation], fall madly in love, maybe even get a priest to marry us over the phone or we could hang out some time."

i usually add: "im free on _____" and sometimes "so book me while u still can". both the assumption that shes gonna say yes and that ur a social and busy guy are great prize-frame tactics. credit to David D and Style for this routine. iv got some pretty awesome reactions when iv used this so have fun with it man.

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Cheers guys, its al been taken in.


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Bro 30 secs- 2 minutes is doable, but if you arent closing day 2's I would say it's OKAY to talk longer, get her laughing, tell stories to DHV and tease her and shit. At a high point, Then close on the day 2.

cheers I'll try that out.

2 minutes is waaaay too little. Once you game her in person, you must continue to spark attraction and interest over the phone. People get bored fast, and the great feelings she felt yesterday she forgot this morning when her toothbrush fell in the toilet (or whatever. scientific studies tell us that o average, the typical woman is in a bad mood 3 hours every day).

When i call, i always start with an interesting story or tidbit or joke.