For an AFC isnt becoming a PUA not being "himself"



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:38 am 
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I was thinking becoming a PUA from an AFC is quite a big step- i think an AFC can inculcate little things like making eye contact etc but to go as far as negging a girl or showing an "artificial" DHV seem to me not being "yourself", or am I wrong....
Is any girl in the world worth losing your own identity to.....I personally dont think it is, what do you guys think??


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 1:00 am 
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As humans we like to be appreciated, loved and accepted. So if you’re being yourself and not leaving a mark on anything (including a woman’s heart) why wouldn’t you want to change?

If you’re willing to change your self-image, you will change your life and you will make a difference by giving woman those feelings they were designed to crave so strongly. If you feel like you are protecting your honor by being true to the values you were probably taught by someone else then you are just fooling yourself.

Being Yourself is one of the most misunderstood concepts of pickup. I know because age old question of “how do I be myself? I’ve been myself for years and that hasn’t worked?” Often times, the reason for that is because we only believe we are being ourselves when in reality we are not.

Here is a simple way to tell if you are being yourself: do you always act in the way you want and never change your behavior for fear of what others will think? If you answered no you are not being yourself, you are trying to be what you think others will want. Living your own life, being independent and making your own decisions is the essence of the alpha male.

The first and most important thing you are going to have to do to be yourself is figure out who you are. How do you ever expect to know how to be yourself or what to accept if you don’t know who you are? If you are constantly afraid of what others will think or are constantly afraid to think for yourself or are constantly worrying about upsetting other people you’re never going to go very far in life and you are never going to truly be yourself.

You want to be able to express your real personality. Express it through everything – your interests, your style, your sense of humor, ect. Find something special about yourself and find ways to make that a stand out part of your personality. If something doesn’t work for looking attractive find a way to make it work, there is always one out there.

This goes with having your own dreams, passions, goals and hobbies. Find the things in life that you love and take time to indulge yourself in those. Create the life that you want and don’t stop until you get there. Don’t be afraid.

I'm not saying these descriptions specifically apply to you (that your worried about what others think, ect. but it largely applies to being your real self)


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Becoming a PUA doesn’t necessary mean losing your own identically
Being a PUA is a means to improve your life with not only women but in life as well :D

All you need to do is be real with womens while still processing and incorporating your new PUA understanding to your daily life

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don't show an artificial DHV. Tell real, personal stories.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:25 am 
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Think of it like you'd think of education. At the beginning you don't know shit about things, but after a few years of studying and graduating you ARE what you studied to become to. Same with being a PUA, you train to become better. You LEARN how to approach women and how to be with them.

While learning you will make mistakes and stuff might seem strange to you (eg. not being youself), but in the end, you'll find your own way and you'll be just who you are, only better than you used to be, you are like the new upgraded model of you, You 2.0 ;)


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I think perhaps the best analogy is merketing a product. If you believe that you have a high quality product, then you need to focus on the marketing aspect of it. Emphasize the best qualities. Remember that this produc has a return policy, so just don't make any promises you can't keep.

If you product is lacking however, you need to focus on improving it, which is what identity work and inner game is all about.

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I see it as a discovery of my self. It unlocks the chains given me by society. Gets the smoke off my eyes and helps me see through everything. Helps me be more concious about my self and sorroundings and actually do something about it. Ive been trown smoke & mirrors my whole life in every corner I take since I was born.

If you are really asking yourself this question you need more inner game.

I recomend for you to start a very powerful book:

The 48 Laws of Power

Read it. It has help me out a lot!!! Let us know what you think. :wink:


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change is not a bad thing!!

your morals, values, interests should remain the same [of course all of these evolve over time, so don't expect to be exactly the same]
what does changes is the way in which you present yourself
the distinction between being a PUA and being an AFC can usually be summed up in the term "alpha"-- being a PUA is about being confident, interesting, engaging, and valuable to others
keep in mind that not everyone should be a PUA-- at this point, i don't consider myself one, but i am learning about the techniques to improve upon myself

isn't change good sometimes as long as you don't sacrifice your true self?


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after i got into this pua thing, i realized its not about just openers and routines. there are other things that changed my life: body language, inner game, and it helped me understand the dominant behavior of and alpha male thus helped me improve my relationship with guys too: becoming a leader, this improves life, helps you understand the human social dynamic

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I am also trying for this transition, and I quite honestly don't think of it as 'changing' myself.... rather, I am 'improving' myself. Improving my self image, and the way other people see me. It is my theory that the only reason us AFCs act the way we do now it because we don't hold the high status of non AFCs thus lacking the confidence to throw Negs toward girls. If we had that kind of confidence it would be no problem. so yeah like i said, it is more bettering yourself, than trying to change who you are.


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That's why you don't "act", you "be".

Ie: don't act alpha, BE alpha (its a mentality kind of thing)


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Being your nervous, supplicating, non-confident self is not "being yourself."

The way you are when you are totally comfortable and in control of yourself around someone is the true you.

Change yourself to become yourself if you aren't being yourself.


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Being your nervous, supplicating, non-confident self is not "being yourself."

The way you are when you are totally comfortable and in control of yourself around someone is the true you.
What if you're supplicating, and non-confident when you're totally comfortable and in control of yourself?

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