Been trying to get with this hb10 for awhile now, she was texting me on the weekends but i didn't think much of it, I'd text her back make an attempt to hang out, but never expected to anything.

then i got into the pua scene, built comfort and asked her if she wanted to hang out, she said she'd love to, so she was suppose to call me that night after she was done with dinner, never called so I called her and left a message and told her to wear something sexy if we're still going out.

No response, I sent her a message on myspace a couple days later saying my time was valuable and she wasted it. No response.

3 days later I send her another one trying to cut my loses and atleast learn from the situation, asked her what attracts her to a guy, and then I promised to leave her alone total dlv. No response.

the next day I sent her a message "i have issues i lit myself on fire when i was kid just so my mom would cover me with a blanket" no response.

2 weeks go by and I ask her if she wants to go to this event 450 miles away and spend the weekend with me, we're both 20, although we both have fake ids so we can pretty much go anywhere. She responded! wtf?! She wants to go, asked questions about it and everything, it's in 2 weeks, so I call her tonight and asked her what are the chances of her flaking, because my time is valuable and if she doesn't want to go, there are plenty other girls i'd like to ask. She says she's totally in, shocked i tell her to call me this weekend and confirm.

But of course I have 4 other girls that are already wanting to go, so it's not a big deal if she flakes.

I can't see a pattern here, does someone care to explain what happened?
Prior to this we hung out once when I was 17, she was a club promoter and got me into the club for free. I slept at her house, but with a different girl.

I send her a message every time she post a bulletin on myspace telling her how silly/childish she is and when she post new pictures I neg her. She responds to no one on myspace but me, and her girlfriends.

She's just a mystery to me, I can't figure her out, insight, comments, concerns are more than welcome.

also thinking about taking a chartered sailboat around the area we're going, it's only $100 for 2 hours, and I'm pretty sure its nothing she's ever experienced before.

-always leave her better off than when you found her, or is that just too romantic too soon and too young?

Best advice here, stop trying. If she doesn't respond, then you're doing something wrong most likely. Either contacting her too much or not saying the right things.

You have to also think of her frame of mind and how it can change to certain stimuli (Vacation?). Maybe that triggered something new and exciting in her head. Make sure she knows your intentions aren't to just LJBF though.

It's a good idea, but take someone that is actually interested in you, offering her a chartered sailboat is like buying her a drink at a bar.

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hmm, but if it's something i want to do and well i gotta take her with me, we'll see if she actually confirms though..

Why have you "gotta"?

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you have developed one-itis for this girl, its obvious, or else you would have taken any of the other 4 girls and you wouldnt try this hard.

if shes worth it then well on you for somehow getting her to come with you..although you should be careful because she could be just 'hitching' a ride to this event..

what event is it? where will you be staying?

and yes stop contacting her so much..constrain yourself..post more here instead on your phone lol..

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it's called bimmerfest, gathering of bmws once a year in santa barabara.

As for where we're staying..hotel, friends houses, i dunno havent given it a lot of thought.

and ya the sailboat thing is kind of extreme, but it's always something i wanted to do, and i 'gotta' take her, well because what is she going to do for 2 hours while im on a sailboat chartered for a private party..

one'itis maybe, just because she is so together and won't flinch if a guy doesnt call her back cause there's 10 more calling her the next day.

and i don't contact her as much as you may think
maybe once a month, until just recently after i got flaked on and then ignored, i didnt know what to do..

the other 4 girls are like hb7s on a good day, so clearly the afc part of me wants to bring her just cause she's hot, but she doesn't have to know that.

mwhaha you told her that you lit yourself on fire and stuff?
She ignores you? She doesnt even respond to: You waste my time and you better wear something sexy?
But when you give her something( A vacation ) she reacts?
okay good luck scoring this one youll need it. Seriously? Dump her
if you dont like any of these 4 other girls just go there alone and get one there. Its not like they are going to be men and ugly women only

Man dude I was going to go to Bimmerfeast too.What kind of Bmw do you have?

I wouldn't take her. Seems like she is just responding to you on her own time, and hence, she is the prize. I think you would be better off taking someone else, but if you do take her, best of luck to you! Let us know how things end up

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Might have just been better off dangling money in front of her face.



Yea....... get rid of her.

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oh man guys

so she called today around 12 in the afternoon, I was still sleeping and had my phone off, and didn't turn my phone on until 730 tonight. New voicemail. I thought it might be one of my friends wanting to get drunk tonight, or my mom calling or my dad calling anyone but her!

She leaves a message "heyyyy hunnnny how are you, so i was calling becauuse i wantted to knowww a little bit more about this beaammmerfest, cause i totally want to come, so just give me a call i guess when youre not busy byyye" this was in the most seductive voice i've ever heard embarrassing as it was i got a halfie just listening to it.

So I call her back after that and leave a message and tell her we leave friday, party drink do whatever for a couple days and then i have some business to take care of in newport beach I have work til 1130 so i'll talk to you later.

I have all sorts of options and I'm very zoomed out and indifferent if she comes or not ( well that's how I present myself, i spill my emotions on here)

Now in reality I would very much enjoy her coming, and I'm not going to drive 8 hours alone so im taking someone.

Here's my question:
I go to college and have a place here 100 miles from my hometown, where she lives, and I'm 90% sure she lives with her parents, and I dont know if it would be weird to invite her over to spend the night at my rents house the night before we leave (Yes i know that would be weird, but i need something..we leave at 4am) or if I should pick her up at 4am (chances of her saying she's too tired/too early is probable as with most people)

As for just dangling money in front of her..her family is very well off so im not sure she is impressed by outward symbols of status

The first year I went it cost me $240 (stayed with a friend, drove down with a friend and a girl I was dating, split gas with my friend, girl paid for all of her expenses and food for me)
Last year I went with my girlfriend and it cost me $540 (Includes a $120 piece of glass i broke when i was drunk, this time we had fine dining meals the whole time, she paid for 3, I paid for 5, she paid for all the snacks on the way, I paid for all of gas)
This year i have 400 cash and that's all I plan to spend, hopefully being able to split gas with her, or just telling her to give me some money when i go to the gas station.

I see where you're coming from to just drop her, but I mean hb10, vacation, sex, it doesn't get much better than this

to the guy above: I have a 99 m3 coupe gutted, rollbar, raceseats, straight pipes, intake, intake manifold, full race coilovers..the list goes on for awhile

I was giving it some more thought why I wanted her to come, and I'm marketing a new internet idea to quiet a few companies in newport beach, ca.
Now I have all my shit together so to speak, but I always have trouble closing people.

I worked in the restaurant industry for a few years, and I could always sell people on alcohol, that was my initial approach, I was full of energy, and my energy died down through out the meal that I was hardly ever able to sell them on desert or coffee, they just wanted to leave...which was always good to turn tables as quickly as possible and still have a high tag.

But I was thinking I take her with me as my "business partner" and the people im marketing are going to be in aww and take whatever it is im selling them.

Towards the end of my restaurant days I had all sorts of people telling me I could sell ice to an Eskimo.

Is this wrong to use her?

Look, I know you know this situation much better than I do, but regarding "using her", i feel like you are the only one who's going to be used this trip. Like I said, that may not be true, but this girl seems to be using you just for this trip. If you still plan to take her though, f-close her and then come back and throw it in our faces!

Also, regarding gas, I would make it known beforehand that you are not paying for everything... See how she takes it...

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