OK, so I just moved down to Malta (in the middle of the Mediterranean.. and wow I need to move to a sea I can actually spell, seriously!), so new place, new vibes. I'm also VERY new to the game, to the point where I've got very limited experience with its techniques etc.

Basically, I'm a fish out of water.

So, an ex-colleague manages to end up coming down to Malta for a 1-week holiday with his best bud (both metal loving brits, if you've heard of that breed). They happened to come across this HB7, but stripper, chick at one of the local stripclubs where she was working as it makes her more money than as an emergency room nurse (or whatever!). The somehow manage to leave with her but nothing happens between any of them. They hang around with her for a couple of days before this happens...

Us guys all go out Sat night, just gonna have a blast, get shitfaced, talk bout nothing and everything.. when the stripper, Maria, enters the picture.... with the ABSOUTELY WORST AFC I HAVE EVER MET; I didn't know this at the time, but realized later he's under the impression they've been dating for 5 months while they've actually never even kissed! He funds her apartment (to which he has no key), sponsor her drinks (to avoid her accepting drinks from other guys) etc. LOL. Anyhow;

We sit down, I can't even remember if I manage to introduce myself to her or if I'm just completely oblivious to her arrival. I'm really not in the mood for hitting on her anyhow, as the situation was, with this dude completely acting as if they were dating, it was uncool to even go there. Plus, I really don't care as my first priority is hooking up with my buddy.

Anyhow, we sit down, have a great time and I have pretty much no communication with her for the first hour or two (actually not quite certain on this point, I tend to feel 100% sober but day after I tend to remember only the highlights) at which point I bust her balls severely for smoking, stating that smoking kills, reminding her suicide is a sin and telling her how I just quit smoking bla bla. At this point we've also got this huge Turkish water-pipe with some non-nicotine filling, which she is absolutely forcing on me, to which I refuse multiple times, manage to exclaim "I blow in the face of danger" (yah, not native english speaker, I know!) for the intense enjoyment of the british cast members, busting her balls for smoking, telling her something along the lines of "I'll smoke but by NOT by your request. If Andy here asks me, I'll consider a puff or 2" which just makes her even more intent of making me smoke. I stand my ground, and through body language tell her to fuck off.

At this point she "hates me" and will "kill me". She keeps repeating this over and over again (note: I might actually have insulted her. I'm not very smooth while shitfaced). This actually goes on for a long, long time.

Her spectacle continues, possibly/probably amped stay completely indifferent to this, not caring at all (other than possibly for her "BF" believing her BS to be real and causing a scene) until it's time to take off to another bar, grabbing a hotdog etc on the way down. She still won't let off and is at this point getting herself mightily worked up.

So we arrive at the last bar, it's really getting late, and I decide its time to put the hammer down before shit goes completely out of control, asking her to throw some real insuts instead of repeating the same old boring crap. Then I follow up with "lets just be friends", give her 2.5 sec eye contact, then focus back on the guys (who was more interesting at the time anyway). She suggests we all go swimming, I declare this is a fine idea, and pull the guys with me (less her "BF" who gets upset and takes off -- him being upset I am completely unaware of till the next morning when she shows me the message (which is quiiiiiite nasty!) lol).

Anyhow, my buddys mate Andy has been openly flirting with her the entire night, so he joins up in the ocean (this is a public beach, right next to the party-area, so underwear etc stays on). It gets cold/boring and both Andy and myself get out of the water, take a few drunkass pictures and gets dressed. This attention freak won't get out of the water, something of neglible concern to us (other than, what if she ACTUALLY drowns!). We show her we're taking off and persuade her to get dressed while we're walking away.

My mates take off, and I walk with my Norwegian friend (who was busy talking to my ex-colleague most of the night and no importance to events) up towards taxi stands/my apt. At this point, though, she's been much faster than us and is waiting for us, knowing we'll pass through. We walk towards the taxi stand and at the first point of me hinting that I won't be taking a taxi cause I live too close (literally less than a kilometer from the party area to my apartment), she shows concern at how to get home. I tell her I've got a couch she's more than welcome to borrow, but also remind her that its 730am and buses has resumed service. She goes for the couch. We arrive outside my place, walk inside the apt complex, everythins seems fine.

In the elevator, she literally jumps me! What the fuck! Brazilian Stripper - CHECK!


----


OK, so that's the story. I want every comment you may have. For the record, I'm still an AFC, with serious intentions of becoming a PUA. I have yet to open a set and am currently studying openers, theories etc to avoid completely crashing and burning, but I have changed my body language and showing off indifference to the point that today I actually spotted not one, but TWO HB's staring at me (one behind the counter at McD's, one sitting at a sidewalk cafe). That never happens to me. Except now it does! And I didn't even change anything, except buy a new set of Boss, buy 2 new shirts, dress up proper at daytime, and get my facial skin under proper control (by stop smoking and PROPERLY rubbing it with decent facewash). Very minor stuff that makes me look 5 years healthier (I am 25, looked 28 now look 23. Except for my damn fucked up teeth I cant afford to fix -- yet)

I have a lot of questions, but I'd like to see what your comments are before shooting them all out. The big one I've got right now is if I should've smacked her down earlier and if I was being way too harsh on her/possibly insulted her early on, how could this have been done differently?

Also, I think the entire key to this pull wasn't that I know what the fuck I'm doing but SOLELY because of outcome indifference. Right? Wrong? Some game, some indifference, lots of luckboxing?

Comments, please!


Thanks guys, love you all and I love the new world!

wow long read, I skimmed it but sounds like you know the basics!

did u get a F close?

good sarging matey!

I've read your topic. Very interesting. It looks like you created alot of SNIPER NEGS (Negs that are direct with target). Also used C&F tactic. However she was giving you a shit test to see how much of a man you were. Which proved her wrong when you replied, "Can you come up with any real insults or do you have to say the same boring shit!" This is a SNIPER NEG but also being C&F. GOod job! I like that! However, it deflected her Shit Test and indicated to her that you were for real not a pussy like that other AFC. Just reading about that AFC makes me sick! I understand you're a rAFC (Recovering Average Frustrated Chump) which is a good thing. It's the next stage of getting out of being a AFC. You are using PU skiills where is helpful. Now you've also built a good INNER GAME which helps you have other girls check you out. About the teeth; my theory is that no matter what you look like-you'll still be able to get a girl.

So when you said she jumped you did that mean make out with you or beat the shit out of you? I would advise to you my friend to not be so C&F because C&F is between arrogant and stupid funny. You may be using too much and gotten the "Fuck off!" attitude which interfers with your game. It's good to have a "Fuck off" But also give a fuck when a woman requires it. She has alot of insecurities of herself of not being able to handle rejection. Her pushing you and pushing you is like a drug dealer. She's bad news but maybe a good lay. Don't be an AFC and go along with her. A PUA never surrenders and gives up to the woman. A PUA stands his ground and then determines whether or not what BS to take. If I'm wrong then my fellow PUA's will correct me.

You have a sorta good game going on. I like your post like I said and if you have any other questions PM me. Thanks! Happy Sarging and have a blast doing it. Build more of a INNER GAME and OUTTER GAME and you'll be blazing! Peace out! Take care!

_________________
"Women Love What They Can't Have!"

My official underground website

http://f4fc0878.linkbucks.com

my friend, an experienced pua told me that ross jefferies' stuff works well on strippers

Dude, you got severly lucky!!! At least that how it sounds to me! I agree with you that you went peacocking and that worked for you but you played a dangerous game with that chick. Was she a 6 or a 7? A 7 or an 8?

No matter, you played the most dangerous of games and you won. However, DON'T let this be an example to you of others. Next time, use the neg in a more attractive way, believe me, girls appreciate a sarcastic joke about their appearance more than an evening full of abuse.

Next time try this - "You've got nice boobs, what are they - double d's? My hands are double d size and knowing that most girls wear the wrong bra size I can tell you if your bra size is just right by touch alone"

You have to be both confident and cheeky to pull this one off, but it works. Last week I got my friends girlfriend to pop her chest out while he was sitting right beside me using this method. It's a WORKER! USE IT!!!

Hey Sanchez, I wouldn't use that line. Im no expert, but it sounds like an AFC line to me.

Anyways, I think the reason why you won this one is because the girl was so used to being treated like a little princess by that poor bastard who thought he was her bf, that it totally knocked her out of frame when you gave her the cold shoulder a bit. You know what they say--Treat a princess like a whore and a whore like a princess. It probably didn't hurt that she was propperly high and drunk either. She might have been hb7 physically but it sounds like overall she might have been lacking any long term qualities. I wouldn't try that with an HB that had a little more fiber and wit to them. Good play on this one though. I hope you wore a condom!!

woah.. no no no sanchez. thats a horrible thing to say. what he said was fine. what you just said was pretty AFC (no offense)

sure as sure can be

_________________
BAIT>HOOK>REEL>RELEASE

ummm yeh i spose dougie

_________________
BAIT>HOOK>REEL>RELEASE

damn dawg. chill

Congrats, you're an inspiration!

_________________
http://www.successindating.com/index.html

Congrats on the pull. I am really happy to hear that even though you had some success with this, that you are still prone to analyzing it. Self analysis and efficacy are key to quick development within the game. That being said, I do have a few comments, and maybe a commentary on what happened.

When looking at field reports, it's important to take into account not only your interaction with your target, but the overall group dynamic as well. In this group, she was I assume from the story the only female that remained for an extended amount of time. If not, correct me. When she joined the group, you blew her off, placing yourself out of reach. Now, the trick here is that you were still within earshot and sight. She could watch you interact with your friends, the way you carry yourself, and get an overall feel for your inner game (which by the way is well on its way to top notch).

The rest of your group is filled out in my mind with AFC's and the AFC King she brought with her. He obviously is just a paycheck to her, so she will only give him minimum attention. You said one friend was hitting on her all night, and by doing so made himself too available, lowering his value and raising yours relative to him within the group. Whatever friends are left unmentioned probably seemed to either be more beta with you, or presented some flaw that she caught (i.e. too much interest, too little confidence etc.) This leaves you as the Alpha. Congratulations, we always want this!

After awhile, you negged her for the smoking. Nice. A neg that helps people to be more healthy. You were a public service announcement while picking up, props! She then tried to get you to smoke. I like how you refused to validate her frame. Especially making sure to point out that if someone else asked, you would do it, but not for her. Nice. Nonchalance when she keeps pestering and attacking you is great to build tension and attraction. You were a ghost she kept shooting bullets at. Good use of Sniper negs and non reactiveness. Both are good when applied properly.

The rest of the night, after hearing about the club seems a natural outflow from what happened in the club. Nice work, even if you didn't understand the principles themselves necessarily. You have some of these techniques internalized already. Now get out there and use them bro!

Pan

Umm, yeah, No... Don't ever open a set/stripper by saying this. I notice that I get away with some shit with my friends GF's. But it never got me sexed up. I don't consider myself a mPUA (master pick up artist), however I have f-closed a few girls, and k-closed a few more, and i'm a fucking pro at number closing. So I would suggest an Adam Lyons opener like "Hey I'm kinda new in town, do you know of a coffee shop near by?" Adam Lyons has some fantastic openers.

Anyways, as for your stripper, I think you should get her number and use her as a way to her other stripper friends

You got a little lucky because you were surrounded by guys with NO game.

However it was a glitch and you should focus on learning to open your own groups and play the game for real as opposed to just learning.

You don't need to memorize anything besides an opener to get out and get started guys!

S