Hey, How we all doing?

Jpiz,

Alright so from this field report I am not getting a lot as your details are so vague. I would like to point out many things though first off a lot of your game is confined opinion openers kino games these options are done. Look around pick up is appearing on doctor Phil and so awareness of these minor tactics are arising and will wreck you if you continue on this path. Realize that these tactics are a placebo effect the only reason it works is because you believe in it. Stop believing in words and start believing in yourself, everyone is great and we each have our own personality thus we are unique.

As per your touching and isolation you are letting false beliefs affect you. Instead of saying "I could have isolate but I did not try" TRY you learn way quicker from experience. Knowledge is the only way to advance push everything if you want it take it or at least try learn from your mistakes.
There is no such thing as a negative that is a mind state everything is good if you look at it in the proper way.

ChowforNow,

the--------------------------------------->Saint

TheSaint@charismaconcept.com

Jd-alexei-17@hotmail.com

'Whether or not you agree with his harsh, straight to the point mentality, truth be told, he’s the most active/ dedicated / motivating member on this board. He’s routinely getting newbies and current members out sarging, pushing them into sets, given them suggestions and advice, replying to posts more often then anyone else. (Come out Wednesdays and you’ll see what I mean). Also, I have not once heard him making excuses about not going out and pussying out. If anyone else can show me this, I will automatically promote you to any status that you want on this board. (including admin).

Now .. I (and others) .. have tried a more sugar coated / feel good approach to getting guys to come out. Truth be told, it hasn’t worked anywhere close as well. I'm disappointed that with all the free resources, and the cool guys that we have offering free advice, so few people actually make use of it, go out consistently, and get better with women, instead of dabbling and keyboard jockeying.'

'How did it start?Well, I don't know.I just feel the craving.I see the flesh and it smells fresh.And it's just there for the taking.'

'Looking at my own reflection When suddenly it changes Violently it changes Oh no there is no turning back now You've woken up the demon in me'

'Only see, somehow it always seems that I'm learnin' or something I can never be It dosen't matter to me, 'cause I will always be that pimp I see
in all my fantasies I don't know your fucking name.So what?
Let's.fuck'

'Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, re energize, and rewind
I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind

Thx Saint.

What do one of your regular pick ups look like? From meet to lay.


thx

I just screwed up sooo hard. I take the school with this HB8.5 everyday. Weve been through alot of funny stuff too. We walk to the bus in the morning and when we get off the bus after school I walk a different way to my house with my buddies and she goes the other way. I met her a while ago and we talk everyday. Im still reading the MM but looking back on what weve talked about i negged her and DHV'd. I guess it helps that im a year older too. Anyways yesterday she told me that she was going to Quebec for three days. Blah blah blah. Today I walked with her after school. Shes like why do u always walk the other way. I said cause im used to it. So as where walking her trip thing came up again and i was like yo ur getting me a souvinir in a C and F way. We joked around a bit laughed, then Talked about random stuff. As we got to her house I was gonna go for a hug and without looking at my face she says bye and starts walking away. I then studdered sooo hard and said take....take it easy......lol damnnn im walkin away now and i turn and yell yo dont forget my souvenir eh. SHE DOESNT EVEN LOOK AT ME. I said yo HB8.5. DOESNT EVEN TURN HER HEAD. WTF It was like she totally ignored me. She obviously heard me. WOW it feels awkward even thinking about it. WHAT DO I DO NOW?

Hey, How we all doing?

Pizz, I am not a social robot and I do not agree with set routines from getting from one place to another. Could you imagine driving on the same road and seeing the same scenery everyday of your life? BORING. The experimenting going with the flow and trying new things is what makes this fun in the same way that YOU wish to meet different types of woman.

This is not a science it is a game and thus everyone has their own style and things that work for them. Vibing from your questions I can feel the frustration but honestly how long have you been in it keep your head up and you will get to where your going, Play with it and enjoy.

ChowforNow,

the--------------------------------------->Saint

Charisma Concept

www.charismaconcept.com

TheSaint@charismaconcept.com

"Whether or not you agree with his harsh, straight to the point mentality, truth be told, he’s the most active/ dedicated / motivating member on this board. He’s routinely getting newbies and current members out sarging, pushing them into sets, given them suggestions and advice, replying to posts more often then anyone else. (Come out Wednesdays and you’ll see what I mean). Also, I have not once heard him making excuses about not going out and pussying out. If anyone else can show me this, I will automatically promote you to any status that you want on this board. (including admin).

Now .. I (and others) .. have tried a more sugar coated / feel good approach to getting guys to come out. Truth be told, it hasn’t worked anywhere close as well. I'm dissappointed that with all the free resources, and the cool guys that we have offering free advice, so few people actually make use of it, go out consistantly, and get better with women, instead of dabbling and keyboard jockeying."

"How did it start?Well, I dont know.I just feel the craving.I see the flesh and it smells fresh.And it's just there for the taking."

"Looking at my own reflection When suddenly it changes Violently it changes Oh no there is no turning back now You've woken up the demon in me"

"Only see, somehow it always seems that I'm learnin' or something I can never be It dosen't matter to me, 'cause I will always be that pimp I see
in all my fantasies I don't know your fucking name.So what?
Let's.fuck"

"Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, reenergize, and rewind
I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind

Hey, How we all doing?


Are you kidding me? Ignore her right back and hold your position. Honestly give me a break how can you over think this and get so negative on yourself after one bad interaction. Even if you fail this time realize that it is your end result that matters, where your going. Live and learn we are all equal some are just more experienced.

Keep going with your regular life the things that you normally do, at the same time be polite still acknowledge her and say Hi she will be curious as to what is going on and initiate a conversation from here play it off like you have been busy and enjoy.

ChowforNow,

the--------------------------------------->Saint

Charisma Concept

www.charismaconcept.com

TheSaint@charismaconcept.com

"Whether or not you agree with his harsh, straight to the point mentality, truth be told, he’s the most active/ dedicated / motivating member on this board. He’s routinely getting newbies and current members out sarging, pushing them into sets, given them suggestions and advice, replying to posts more often then anyone else. (Come out Wednesdays and you’ll see what I mean). Also, I have not once heard him making excuses about not going out and pussying out. If anyone else can show me this, I will automatically promote you to any status that you want on this board. (including admin).

Now .. I (and others) .. have tried a more sugar coated / feel good approach to getting guys to come out. Truth be told, it hasn’t worked anywhere close as well. I'm dissappointed that with all the free resources, and the cool guys that we have offering free advice, so few people actually make use of it, go out consistantly, and get better with women, instead of dabbling and keyboard jockeying."

"How did it start?Well, I dont know.I just feel the craving.I see the flesh and it smells fresh.And it's just there for the taking."

"Looking at my own reflection When suddenly it changes Violently it changes Oh no there is no turning back now You've woken up the demon in me"

"Only see, somehow it always seems that I'm learnin' or something I can never be It dosen't matter to me, 'cause I will always be that pimp I see
in all my fantasies I don't know your fucking name.So what?
Let's.fuck"

"Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, reenergize, and rewind
I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind

awesome !

hey saint,
Ok so i'm good at socializing face to face but when i'm talking on the phone or texting its like there is this mental block. I have no idea what to talk about and i usually make up an excuse to get off the phone. Any advice to help me get over this?

saint first let me say I apreciate all your hard work!

Now off to my topic. I havent been here for a couple of month due to a busy schedule! So I have little to no practice you can say and I have kinda forgot a few things. So I wanted to turn to you for a quick hep for the situation that I am in right now.


yesterday while walking to school I bumped into HB9 that is freinds with my cusin and I have known her for sometime now. Due to my school schedule I havent seen here for 2-3 months until up to this point. I was surprised to see her since she doesnt go to my college.

She saw me and waved at me from inside of her car. So I walked up to her and started the conv. Right off the bat she was happy to see me. (keep in mind I have never tryed gaming her, but now I want to) The convo goes something like this.

HB:hey mstyle (waving)
ME: Hey (her name)
HB:omg how have you been blah blahe
ME: blah... what are you doing here?
HB: I'm here to pick up a friend blah!
ME: I hear you changed your number?
HB: ya I have! (she goes through her phone and finds my number)
ME: wow you still kept my number?
HB: laughing shut up!
HB: its funny I was just thinking about you today! (texting me so I can have her new number)
Me: Omg what are you doing wrining me a paragraph?
HB: laughing hits me on the arm playfully

we talk a bit more about her finals and where i was hetting to and told her i had to go and leave. As soon as I leave i text her "

ME:wow who was that sexy guy you were just talking to? damn HB =)
HB: LOL UR FUNNY

so I went out of my way and asked her to join me and a few freinds to 6 flags this weekend for memorial weekend if she didnt have plans already!

So said she was going to santa barbara! and then she was like i am afraind of 6 flags lol

So I told her dont worry we will do something else some other time! and that I wouln'd have let anything happen to her!

So after a few hours at night when I got home I texted her!
Me: (her name)
HB: my name but spelled wrong
ME: You looked hot today! You are lucky I have school today or else! btw my name is ( the right spelling) but you can call me lover! =) (I know cheesy)
HB: Ur so randum! But thank you
Me: what are you wearing?
HB: no response!!

This is where I need help! I wanted to build up some sexual tension between us so she wont look at me as freinds! Now how do i go by doing this with us messing up anything?
today it is one day past that convo! I want to say something different today to spark things up!

Saint please point me to the right direction! I woulnd so appreciate it! and my bad this waas kinda long!

Hey, How we all doing?

Silk, you are good at socializing in a social interaction, question to you is how did you get this way?

Practice, I bet, and that is the same you say you are running away from the phone if you continue to do this you shall never gain any progress. No excuses remember you learn from your mistakes.

Now everything has a positive and a negative, the glass is always half full. Phone game sucks as it is harder to read your target however there are no obstacles in your way and she also has more trouble reading you. Personally I love phone game as when I go to the club I am getting to many numbers to follow up on thus the phone is my interviewing process, my way of deciding whom I legitimately want to invest time into.

Alright now the best challenge I have heard has to be TD's, set up a two hour period twice a week where you call all of your numbers. Starting with your least favorite girls to the most desired. Now comes the hard part take notes of everything you said and you will notice each call gets better and better. To help accountability post is on forums ask questions get others to look at your dialogs and you will get better quickly.

Just do not run just like everything else in this game You can do it, if You want to!


ChowforNow,

the--------------------------------------->Saint

Charisma Concept

www.charismaconcept.com

TheSaint@charismaconcept.com

"Whether or not you agree with his harsh, straight to the point mentality, truth be told, he’s the most active/ dedicated / motivating member on this board. He’s routinely getting newbies and current members out sarging, pushing them into sets, given them suggestions and advice, replying to posts more often then anyone else. (Come out Wednesdays and you’ll see what I mean). Also, I have not once heard him making excuses about not going out and pussying out. If anyone else can show me this, I will automatically promote you to any status that you want on this board. (including admin).

Now .. I (and others) .. have tried a more sugar coated / feel good approach to getting guys to come out. Truth be told, it hasn’t worked anywhere close as well. I'm dissappointed that with all the free resources, and the cool guys that we have offering free advice, so few people actually make use of it, go out consistantly, and get better with women, instead of dabbling and keyboard jockeying."

"How did it start?Well, I dont know.I just feel the craving.I see the flesh and it smells fresh.And it's just there for the taking."

"Looking at my own reflection When suddenly it changes Violently it changes Oh no there is no turning back now You've woken up the demon in me"

"Only see, somehow it always seems that I'm learnin' or something I can never be It dosen't matter to me, 'cause I will always be that pimp I see
in all my fantasies I don't know your fucking name.So what?
Let's.fuck"

"Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, reenergize, and rewind
I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind

Hey, How we all doing?

M, Sorry for the delay. Alright so in your case you brought up sexual innuendos that the girl was not ready for thus making it uncomfortable to her. When someone is feeling awkward they will automatically put up extra protection so that they cannot be hurt.

Let me give you an example think back to your past days or even other guys you have witnessed in the venues that you are interacting in. A guy moves in to kiss a girl and she is not ready for this step, average guy does one of two things and neither of them are good as he is just reimbursing the awkwardness. He will either go back in for the kiss again and again or he will question her decision "What the fuck, why wont you kiss me? etc etc". This is the same position you are in and if you want to deal with it right ignore it make light of the situation so the wait has been lifted and then when the time is right you can go back to sexual frame.

Joke around, tell a story, introduce her to a friend just get away from the uncomfortable energy or in your case send a random text "Snoopy just got shot" now as dumb as it sounds curiosity will work in your favor.


ChowforNow,

the--------------------------------------->Saint

Charisma Concept

www.charismaconcept.com

TheSaint@charismaconcept.com

"Whether or not you agree with his harsh, straight to the point mentality, truth be told, he’s the most active/ dedicated / motivating member on this board. He’s routinely getting newbies and current members out sarging, pushing them into sets, given them suggestions and advice, replying to posts more often then anyone else. (Come out Wednesdays and you’ll see what I mean). Also, I have not once heard him making excuses about not going out and pussying out. If anyone else can show me this, I will automatically promote you to any status that you want on this board. (including admin).

Now .. I (and others) .. have tried a more sugar coated / feel good approach to getting guys to come out. Truth be told, it hasn’t worked anywhere close as well. I'm dissappointed that with all the free resources, and the cool guys that we have offering free advice, so few people actually make use of it, go out consistantly, and get better with women, instead of dabbling and keyboard jockeying."

"How did it start?Well, I dont know.I just feel the craving.I see the flesh and it smells fresh.And it's just there for the taking."

"Looking at my own reflection When suddenly it changes Violently it changes Oh no there is no turning back now You've woken up the demon in me"

"Only see, somehow it always seems that I'm learnin' or something I can never be It dosen't matter to me, 'cause I will always be that pimp I see
in all my fantasies I don't know your fucking name.So what?
Let's.fuck"

"Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, reenergize, and rewind
I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind

I loved your response. Dont worry about the delay man. Its all good.i figured its better for me. I figured she might have been uncomfortable since I have never made a move on here ever since i known her. i just talked abite and went on my way to meeting other girls even though i wanted to talk to her but i never did because of my girl causins that are freinds with her and they kept saying she is not right for you blah blah thus bring my chances down even if i did talk to her. So I wanted to be on top of my PU before i made a move on her but the oppertunity came before i was ready!

So now I want to show her I am interesed in her more then just friends. I am not a guy to ask why she did what she did! I just act like nothing happen. I just need to know how to build Sexual tension! This is my weakness! :/

I've been on and off with a girl for about 2 years, and things get so out of control because I cant establish power and control in situations. I lose my temper or lower my value by showing neediness or jealousy. I do not know what to do. At first when we started dating I demonstrated all these things but as time passed I slowly lost my "alpha" status.

Any books or sections about game that can help me?

What do I do when she acts needy, when she says "buy this for me", or tells me to grow up?
How do I act when things get out of control, when she is showing jealousy or anger because of other girls. When do I freeze her out, how do I DHV in a relationship, how do I control her basically? She is what I would consider a "natural" and does all this and after studying the game I realize things she does but I do I counter it? I would appreciate it everyone could throw in some insight because I really do care about this chick but it isn't what I would consider one-itis so fucking other girls isn't the answer, I've done that.

I want to elicit pleasure and have conversations without fights, I want to dominate the relationship. I don't want to be pushed around anymore.

_________________
I'm addicted to facing my fears.

So I've read Neil Strauss' book, and I'm not sure what I'm doing. As a beginner, what do you think I should do? I'm still in school, but I don't want to sarge there because I think it would be pretty risky if I was found out. So I want to start my evolution into a PUA in a mall that's really close to my house. I tried approaching today, but I was way too anxious and me and my wing just left right after an extremely short opening. I want to know how to carry on a conversation and develop that mutual trust first, then probably learn to close with an e-mail or number or something.

Should I peacock? What's the difference between an insult and a neg? How do I gain that mutual bond of trust? How do I make the conversation seem not at all awkward?

I'm not afraid of failure, I've come to realize that you can't be when you're trying to learn how to do just about anything.

By the way, help is VERY appreciated, thank you so much.

SAINT did you happen to delete the other posts that i made here? The ones that someone else helped me on?

I know that this is your chat room and we are here to get help from you and you do a fine job. But i was kinda hoping to still have the other advices and try them out, but now they are gone.

Hey, How we all doing?

M, Sexual tension is not your weakness but an area you need more experience in. It can be built many ways whether it be through physical contact, games, eye contact, role playing, or even asking questions.

Physical contact in any way will help up the sexual tension by her being aware that you are touching her, and that she enjoys it. Do it subtly to start so that she is unsure what you are going for and thus she is guessing. Remember there must be an equilibrium too much or too little touching will ruin your interaction.

Games will up the sexual tension as you can throw in innuendos and just let loose and have some fun. One of my favorite things to do when partying with woman is Twister, how much better can it get?

Eye contact is huge and it can make or break an interaction. "A seducer does not stare, he opens everyone up through his deep gaze" Robert Greene, Art of Seduction. Do not rush through your discussion pause for emphasis and let your eyes and body do the talking and raise the sexual frame.

Role playing and asking questions are great ways to get away from everyday life and to insert sexual plot lines. Whether it be what is your favorite fantasy, too if we got married in __________(insert story) where would our honeymoon be?

Keep playing and soon you shall win!

ChowforNow,

the--------------------------------------->Saint

Charisma Concept

www.charismaconcept.com

TheSaint@charismaconcept.com

"Whether or not you agree with his harsh, straight to the point mentality, truth be told, he’s the most active/ dedicated / motivating member on this board. He’s routinely getting newbies and current members out sarging, pushing them into sets, given them suggestions and advice, replying to posts more often then anyone else. (Come out Wednesdays and you’ll see what I mean). Also, I have not once heard him making excuses about not going out and pussying out. If anyone else can show me this, I will automatically promote you to any status that you want on this board. (including admin).

Now .. I (and others) .. have tried a more sugar coated / feel good approach to getting guys to come out. Truth be told, it hasn’t worked anywhere close as well. I'm dissappointed that with all the free resources, and the cool guys that we have offering free advice, so few people actually make use of it, go out consistantly, and get better with women, instead of dabbling and keyboard jockeying."

"How did it start?Well, I dont know.I just feel the craving.I see the flesh and it smells fresh.And it's just there for the taking."

"Looking at my own reflection When suddenly it changes Violently it changes Oh no there is no turning back now You've woken up the demon in me"

"Only see, somehow it always seems that I'm learnin' or something I can never be It dosen't matter to me, 'cause I will always be that pimp I see
in all my fantasies I don't know your fucking name.So what?
Let's.fuck"

"Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, reenergize, and rewind
I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind