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And Keruli please a religious forum isnt going to help me, Ive learned in this life theres nothing but your family and friends, there is no god etc, everything Ive been through Ive survived through my own strength and strong will so I dont have to thank any so called god for that.
Every man his own beliefs. But i would say u are out of luck, becouse what u are asking for is a miracle.
I just dont understand in how asking for the life that I should have should be a miracle, after all why should I be different from anyone else?


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As some of you know Ive given myself 12 weeks for my life to change and to get the life that is long overdue to me and what I truly deserve.
Ive been through plenty of hard times and rough shit in my life(through no fault of my own) and Ive decided enough is enough, life is pointless if it is always going to be this way.
Imagine reaching 25 and never even getting close to a serious relationship while the people who doubted you and shit on you are doing great in life, someone the time Ive lost needs to be made up...I need at least 10 years of playing the game and then settle down after all none of this is my fault, if Im going to carry on with my life things need to change.
Now I need realistic advice not just all that get out there nonsense, been there done that...
Realistic advice would be appreciated.
You say that nothing in your past was your fault. K. That doesn't even matter. The past no longer exists. You know what does exist? The NOW.

I sure as hell hope you believe in free will, because what I'm about to tell you will only make sense if you do. The only thing that exists is the NOW and from NOW ON everything you do will be choices you make. You recognize what happened in the past and take no responsibility? Well, time to wake up. From now on, everything that happens is your responsibility. If you choose to keep dwelling on the past, it's going to have negative effects for you NOW...and that will be your fault. If you choose to live in the now instead, it's going to have positive effects for you now and beyond... and it's going to be your fault. :P

It's very good that you're telling yourself "enough is enough." Bravo! ENOUGH IS FUCKING ENOUGH. You have been through twenty-five years of pain and suffering and you've had ENOUGH. You deserve BETTER. However, here's the depressing news... No one cares about you except yourself.

BUT WAIT... Here's the happy enlightening news... You can choose to change your entire life for the better. All you have to do is say "enough is enough" and STEP UP TO THE CHALLENGE.

GOD cannot hold your hand and walk you across the street to the kingdom of PUA glory. He doesn't care. You must gather the courage to cross the traffic on your own. You'll get hit by a few cars along the way, but will you fall or will you persevere? (Don't actually go out running in front of cars... I'm just telling you to step outside of your comfort zone)

What you have been doing so far hasn't been fucking working. Admit it. What else can you do?

1. Stop giving a rat's ass about the past and whatever could potentially be holding you back from doing whatever it takes to succeed.
2. Get out there and fucking succeed.

We have tools and resources available for you to help yourself succeed. I'd start by reading up on Inner Game if I were you. Then, get out of the house and make things happen.

The power is in your hands. No one can make things happen for you.


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I read your other thread, read every comment, it took me about an hour...

You know what... we don't know each other, i have never seen you, but i dislike you already, you are a loser.

Now ask yourself is someone born a loser?


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I read your other thread, read every comment, it took me about an hour...

You know what... we don't know each other, i have never seen you, but i dislike you already, you are a loser.

Now ask yourself is someone born a loser?
One thing I can be confident and certain about in life is that I am definately not a loser


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Then stop acting like you're a loser. Most, if not all of us here have been through the similar feelings. You're using the idea of infinite justice here to qualify your selfmedication and it's not helping you. So don't do it. Here's the thing:
Nothing breeds nothing. You can only achieve success by doing.

Get some inner game stuff and take a look at that. You will get what you want.


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Setting a time line is both a good thing and a bad thing. On the one hand it is very good that you are getting serious and focusing on acting now to change things that you want to change. But there are dangers that you may be trying to change everything all at once and putting to much pressure on the small changes that you need to make in the beginnng. Its like with picking a girl up. If you're too into making it work with one girl you won't. You need to avoid getting oneitus with your life. Its all about making incremental changes at first.

I'm not saying you shouldn't have your time line. Its just that you need to be very careful about putting too much emphasize on any one thing you do to make things better. I'm not the guy to be giving advice based on where I am in my own life really right now I guess. I'm just speaking to you as one guy to another who might be in something of the same sittuation.

Its important that you don't psych yourself out. Don't put so much pressure on yourself. Just try to make the improvements that you want and move on with what is working for you at any time. Its a building process. Positive change leads to more positive change.

What I like a lot about the game is that its focused on demystifying getting women. Thats the biggest problem that happens is dwelling too into the confusion of dealing with people. You need to make it easier not harder. There are concrete things that you can do to improve in any part of your life. Stay methodical. Find clarity. The biggest problem that most of us have I think is in making too much of a big deal out of things. Stay loose and easy. Approach things in steps and don't approach them as all one giant ball of confusion that you have to deal with. Think methodically and approach your problems as items to take care of and not a giant mass of problems. One thing at a time.

I didn't quite say everything I wanted to say I don't think or put them quite right but I hope what I said helped. I have social anxiety disorder and one of the things that really helped me was when my cognitive psychologist told me in our first meeting to just let the anxiety come. The biggest mistake that people with my issues make is in fighting the anxiety. That just makes it worse. It becomes a negative feedback loop. You fight the anxiety and that just makes more anxiety and so on and so on. I think a lot of the problems in life are negative loops from dealing with issues in that way. Just let things come and make the changes that you want to make one thing at a time. Don't let it get lumped all together as all one mass and obsess in that way. Don't beat yourself up. Find clarity. Be practical and open to concrete steps and don't let it become a negative feedback loop.

You sound like maybe you are putting too much pressure on things and making your problems bigger problems that way. Avoid the vicious loops. Deal with your problems as they are concretely and don't dwell on them. Change your attitude towards them. You're bigger than your problems. They aren't bigger than you.


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heres the view iv developed that helps me keep positive. first, sure, you may deserve some success, life "owes" you some happiness after what you've been thru. but unfortunately, theres no bank to cash that check my friend. so when we say get your act together, its not that we dont sympathize, but we already understand that no one has the capability to change your life but you. and its ok to vent, it helps get the raw, painful emotions out, but once you've got your head back on, you have to take a look at what is wrong in your life, make a list. bad job, bad social life, bad credit, w/e. then make another list of whats available to you to fix each problem. the guru's listed earlier can help you in one aspect of your life man, but Pick-Up is for people who have the luxury to spend time on women. if you have a bad job, not enough money, a bad apartment, those should all be priority.
Now if you havent had the opportunity to go to college or pursue your dream career, you can still educate yourself. many classes at community colleges are free for people not seeking credit, if you've got the time for it. check out iTunes U. it has a BUNCH of recorded lectures by the nations top professors online for FREE.
if you feel like you need to get in shape, get a set of dumbells for like $5 and do home workouts, you dont need a gym. running is free, exersize is the key to a longer life.
its the easiest thing in the world to blame somebody else or something else for the problems in your life, because everyone has something in their life they feel like they can blame on it, but the people you resent have overcome every obstacle in they're life and excelled past it, and they doubted you because they recognized that the same obstacles faced you, but you did not overcome them, for one reason or another, and they may have been under the impression that that behavior may become a pattern. now i do not know your story, but thats typically where doubts originate.
sometimes life throws you a hardball. i was born with ADHD, which lol isnt exactly fatal, but i know that if I hadn't been given perscription drugs to help my attention, i would have failed out of high school, i know that for certain. what i have done with the ADHD tho, is turned to my advantage outside the classroom and workplace. I participate in activities where large amounts of energy and split-second thinking is paramount like dirtbiking and mtn biking.
so you have to look at your life and accept the hand thats been delt, fair or not, and instead of waiting for something better like so many have done in the past to no avail, is take the initiative. I hope for your sake that you do not denounce this advice like Rye speculated you might, tho I do hold his judgement in the highest regard, and you do those things i suggested, make lists, take a backseat look at your life, see what can be improved and figure out how to do it.

remember tho, if your life is THAT bad, women are not the priority, YOU are.

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and one more thing, fate does not take requests. asking for a perfect life accomplishes nothing. but read above, i think it will help. AND read what chief said. you have to accept the life you are currently living, great or not, and do what you can with it.

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Don't expect things to happen, MAKE them happen.

When it comes to collecting the fruits from the tree of life, some people were given ladders, others were born without legs. It's not fair, it sucks, so what. You have every right to that fruit as much as the guy next to you, you just have to figure out how you're going to get it with what you've got.

Stop thinking about the problem, IDENTIFY the problems, FOCUS on the solutions.

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Thanks for the advice guys, Im having problems in work with someone high up who has a vendetta against me, so I have to attend a disciplinary hearing tomorrow(for criticising the company once outside of work) where I could get sacked. If I get things sorted out in my favour tomorrow Ill come on here and post a few problems I have and hopefully you can advise me further :wink:


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I just dont understand in how asking for the life that I should have should be a miracle, after all why should I be different from anyone else?
A life you should have? Who the hell do you think u are? Mr. God himself? You're acting hella selfish!

Please, if you're having trouble at work, work it out. QUIT your job if you have to and find something else. A LOT of people are giving you advice or opinion. You CLEARLY don't want to listen to any of them.

Get your shit together and don't whine like a frigging baby on these forums. We are here to give you advice on how YOU could change your life. Were not here to instantly change your life, we cannot do that. You have to do that YOURSELF!


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I just dont understand in how asking for the life that I should have should be a miracle, after all why should I be different from anyone else?
A life you should have? Who the hell do you think u are? Mr. God himself? You're acting hella selfish!

Please, if you're having trouble at work, work it out. QUIT your job if you have to and find something else. A LOT of people are giving you advice or opinion. You CLEARLY don't want to listen to any of them.

Get your shit together and don't whine like a frigging baby on these forums. We are here to give you advice on how YOU could change your life. Were not here to instantly change your life, we cannot do that. You have to do that YOURSELF!
Selfish? For asking for a normal, happy life?
Ive been shit on numerous times for various things that arent my fault(work included) and If life is meant to be like that with no happy times then whats the point in carrying on with it?


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ya but see thing is, theres no one to ask this from except god, which is a perfectly good outlet for rough times, but you cant just think that because things have been bad in the past things will get better cuz it should be. if you want a better life, make one.

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Selfish? For asking for a normal, happy life?
Ive been shit on numerous times for various things that arent my fault(work included) and If life is meant to be like that with no happy times then whats the point in carrying on with it?
3 Days ago I've had a very happy live. Today my life is like shit because I just broke up with my girlfriend. In 2 weeks I will most likeley will live a happy life again. And I learn from it, just to fight these feelings the next time, and again and again. If I would stay down like this, I will get depressed what I dont want to! I want to have a happy life, but I need to work for it first like everybody else!


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Selfish? For asking for a normal, happy life?
ASKING? Who the hell are you ASKING? You're missing my point. You can't fucking ASK anyone for a normal, happy life. You have to grab your balls, man up, and MAKE IT HAPPEN. Whining won't get you anywhere.


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