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I would much rather be out finding some hottie to "help me" than sitting in front of some lame-ass porn with a bottle of lotion.
you use lotion? wow...i tend to just use my tears of loneliness as lubrication. :shock:


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This is aguably [sic] the dumbest shit i have ever read.
"Guys who ejaculate often (daily basis and such) are subject to having lower and lower levels of testosterone every time until they become extremely depleted and have a difficult time thinking or multi-tasking."
This is saying that a man need large amounts of testosterone to think correctly? Ridiculous! Women arent retarded without testosterone. And it also says that it reverts you into caveman thinking when you DO masturbate all the time...Perposterous [sic] ! If anything, a man thinks about sex and hunger more when the testosterone levels are peaking. A man will have less patience and therefore logic is given less consideration. Caveman thinking is directly related to high amounts of testosterone! Do you think cavemen were wankin it on a daily basis? This person contradicts himself and clearly made this shit up in between jacking off and wrote this to console his own guilt. There are several studies that say testosterone levels are not depleted after ejaculation. Furthermore, there is no correlation to ejaculation and primary brain performance. If anything, like Mystery said, it affects your motivation to get laid when you can get nearly the same relese [sic] from chokin it. Boooooo! Boo I say to the person who wrote that abomination of truth.
Correct. In addition to providing no evidence - he is contradicting his own claims at several points.

It is very possible that masturbation can effect sexual motivation - and I would like to find at least one decent article surrounding this subject and related topics when I have a bit more time. Please post any that you've found.


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I would much rather be out finding some hottie to "help me" than sitting in front of some lame-ass porn with a bottle of lotion.
you use lotion? wow...i tend to just use my tears of loneliness as lubrication. :shock:
i laughed out loud when i read that...


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lubrication? Oh, shit, THAT's what I'm doing wrong

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Hmmm... If they say this about mansturbation then the same shud apply to sex right? I mean al those guys that somehow manage to get laid everyday are diminishing their testosterone we should feel sorry for them huh? I myself dnt thnk a lil self lovin aint bad it kps ur baby makers fresh (read an article n mens health that too much sperm build up is bad 4 u) , it relieves stress specialy b4 goin out gaming, it helps with sex alot- if u do manage to bring her home ul b able to last lnger coz the 2nd time ALWAYS lasts longer hehe bt also too much of a gud thing makes it a double edged sword (the monkey spanking) so play responsibly u dnt wna wear urself out. But if this here article says otherwise then i can only say one thing... Dont have sex guys it makes ya dumb and slow hehe...


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There are studies that sex or masturbation in the early morning actually INCREASES testosterone levels. Search Google for info


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I think without evidence this article is just bar chat.

I am not convinced and I would imagine having sex actually raises your level of testosterone. How do you feel when you have sex - not deflated I hope.


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i think the info that this post contains is head on. If you read ´Think and grow rich´ by napoleon Hill he mentions that by channeling your sexual energy through other outlets other than sexual expression you´ll gain more creativity and endurance. these are just a few of the many benefits sexual abstinence has on a man.

I truely believe its true cause i´ve experienced it first hand. First of it all the sexual energy build up will be a major driving force behind your desire to approach women. If you got approach anxiety this is a good remedy. Furthermore you´ll dwell more upon your desired outcome and less on all that can go wrong. In my experience i approached every incounter as a playful, educational moment.
The state you get in if you dont wack off is like being doing drugs minus the side affects.

Beat your porn addiction...!! Im still in the proces :D


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The state you get in if you dont wack off is like being doing drugs minus the side affects.
If that were true there wouldnt be a pandemic of drug addiction throughout the world. I guess everyone either has an insatiable urge to jack off or is in a constant state of inconsequential euphoria. LOL


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Science ftw!


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wow there was more to my new philosophy than i thought
(if you dont know what im talking about i posted a topic saying "if you cant get someone to do it for you, then dont do it at all")

after cutting back on masturbation you can really accomplish more. it helped me concentrate more on my studying, working out and (most importantly) SARGING!


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The following article pretty much says that when masturbating, your blood levels of several of the listed hormones increase. There is also a correlation between these hormones in the semen as in the blood. leading one to belive that when you ejaculate, you release some of these hormones from the blood.

however, I am very skeptical. the body has an amazing ability to adapt to nearly anything physiological. If you lose some hormones, then a feedback mechanism will allow you to make more.

sometimes the consequences of this feedback mechanism can change your physiology (such as fatigue, etc)

anyway, here's one article you guys might like:


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Endocrine effects of masturbation in men
K Purvis, BM Landgren, Z Cekan, and E Diczfalusy



The levels of pregnenolone, dehydroepiandrosterone (DHA), androstenedione, testosterone, dihydrotestosterone (DHT), oestrone, oestradiol, cortisol and luteinizing hormone (LH) were measured in the peripheral plasma of a group of young, apparently healthy males before and after masturbation. The same steroids were also determined in a control study, in which the psychological antipation of masturbation was encouraged, but the physical act was not carried out. The plasma levels of all steroids were significantly increased after masturbation, whereas steroid levels remained unchanged in the control study. The most marked changes after masturbation were observed in pregnenolone and DHA levels. No alterations were observed in the plasma levels of LH. Both before and after masturbation plasma levels of testosterone were significantly correlated to those of DHT and oestradiol, but not to those of the other steroids studied. On the other hand, cortisol levels were significantly correlated to those of pregnenolone, DHA, androstenedione and oestrone. In the same subjects, the levels of pregnenolone, DHA, androstenedione, testosterone and DHT, androstenedione and oestrone. In the same subjects, the levels of pregnenolone, DHA, androstenedione, testosterone and DHT in seminal plasma were also estimated; they were all significantly correlated to the levels of the corresponding steroid in the systemic blood withdrawn both before and after masturbation. As a practical consequence, the results indicate that whenever both blood and semen are analysed, blood sampling must precede semen collection.
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In the same subjects, the levels of pregnenolone, DHA, androstenedione, testosterone and DHT, androstenedione and oestrone. In the same subjects, the levels of pregnenolone, DHA, androstenedione, testosterone and DHT in seminal plasma were also estimated;
Ok, the first sentence isnt even a complete one and says nothing. The second is saying that the hormone levels were ESTIMATED. I would say that no scientific proof exists in this entire bogus statement. Just a bunch of fucking big words put together for someones credit of no definite conclusion.

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after cutting back on masturbation you can really accomplish more. it helped me concentrate more on my studying, working out and (most importantly) SARGING!
Dude, if sarging is more important to you than study you gotta rethink your priorities.

God I hate the word sarging.. going out with express intent of meeting women. I never sarge I go out to have fun and not shy away from oppurtunities to meet new people.

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Well the guy raises some interesting points in the article but according to popular scientific proof, there is no way that masturbating reduces blood and cell testosterone. I have my bachelor's in nursing and I've worked in ICU for over a year now. (i've had 4 years of clinic) Not to mention my oldest and foremost hobby since I was 12 has been health/nutrition and biology. Basically, what TINY amount of testosterone and progesterone you actually do secrete is replaced within 24 hours. You're body is made to adapt to any external stimulus using the negative feedback mechanism like the guy mentioned before. If you were THAT excessive and lets say masturbated 10 times daily and actually did reduce your testosterone below a level that was PROVEN to affect your judgement, your body would compensate within a few days. On the other hand-------
There are many psychological and spiritual beliefs that refraining from sex, masturbation, even food for a short while (fasting) can make you more alert and vigile, among other things. Basically no science behind it but I do believe in the science taht your mind manipulates the body according to what you actually believe. So if you take something you hold dear to be true, like this article, maybe stopping masturbating could be a mental edge lol. But that is definately as far as this goes.

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