of course they going to be upset, their brains tell them they that people learning how to pick up women are learning to deceive women which essentially we are. We are learning how to come across as confident, funny, self assured which are all attributes normally associated with the rich and successful.

They fear falling for someone who was gaming them when they have spent their lives dreaming of falling in love just like in hollywood movies.

Plus who wants to believe that attraction isnt a choice

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"Nobody ever gets what they deserve out of life, they get what they believe they deserve."

The blonde haired guy from MM came across as blatantly queer and it was really annoying.

http://www.blacklabelseduction.com/dr-p ... en-beware/

Watch it here

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Back, starting over as of 2012.

this show was so bad. I couldn't believe either party's agreed to do it. First off those two guys seemed pretty genuine however they were not presenting the PUA in a very good light on the show.

As for Ross Jeffries. Dr. Phil was just shitting all over him bringing up his quotes that made him look terrible. I don't see why Ross had to go against Mystery method.? Why not embrace it. Your just digging yourself in a deeper hole. You will never be #1 in the pickup community again dude.

Basically Ross did the whole community a disservice being on the show too

terrible show

Fucking shit Dr. Phill is just trying to get people to watch his pathetic show and trying to build drama putting unrelated things together. Pluss he made Ross look like a sleezbag.
What will the effect be on the PU community? Probably nada. The bitches will continue being bitches, the nice girls will continue being nice and the PUAs will continue running game, perhaps a little more carefully.

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http://www.solomonseagal.com

Anyone can walk into a bar and pick up a random girl.
The trick is to make the experience unforgettable to her.
A real PUA will make every women he encounters feel like she experience something once in a lifetime.

I thought Phil was really enjoying and helping put a positive light on the subject in the begining. Slowly the women of the audience were begining to think it wasnt such a bad thing. Ross just flushed it all down the toilet the moment he opened his mouth.

I did kinda feel the girl in red who did alot of talking was already familiar with pua. She had a lot of positive things to say. I dunno though...

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success is my only mother fucking option, failure is not.

I have a fairly substantial quantity of respect for Dr.Phil - he strikes me as a man who is genuinely interested in bringing up difficult issues.

The problem is - anyone doing research on this stuff is going to come across a huge amount of mis-information and simply incorrect data. Essentially, everything that our community embodies is internet sourced.


If he really wants to understand what it's about - he, or one of his staff needs to take a course.



I have to admit though - the deeper I get involved in this stuff, the stronger I feel that MM is probably not the best stuff to be learning.


The whole fascination with this underground culture stems from the fact that we deal with, at the core, a very touchy issue that makes a lot of people uncomfortable - that combined with the fact that most of the first world operate their lives in a walking, oblivious, subservient consumerist glaze doesn't really encourage them to accept the reality of social dynamics, human sexuality, or other concepts.


This is why I don't own a tv.

Don't know if this was posted yet, but here's the video of the show. I just found it.


http://www.blacklabelseduction.com/dr-phil-women-beware

I thought it was decent. The lady on here was an idiot.

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Men fall in love with their eyes. Women fall in love with their ears.

I'm sorry, but you're all getting your panties in a twist over nothing. While I know it's been said a million times (including now, the premier of PUA on VH1, Style on the Tonight show, "oh no she read the game", an article in Cosmopolitan) STOP WORRYING AND BE YOURSELF.

Please. No more of this nonsense. If there was ever a fruitless, pointless, incredibly unproductive activity to spend your time on, it would be worrying about this crap.

I'm not so much worried about this. I was wondering what kind of twist he would put on the topic. A lot of what is broadcasted on TV and especially News is often very negetive. They never do research to find out the true story. The same thing happend with Heath Ledger. The news worked so hard at getting any story out as soon as they could and then ended up having to change their "facts" because they were so incorrect.

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Men fall in love with their eyes. Women fall in love with their ears.

fuckin ross jeffries. The crowd was actaully begenning to understand things and realize its not all evil and shit. Untill Jeffries came on and acted like a dick the whole time. He was triying to make it sound like MM was all messed up and he was all good. Hes the one who basically hypnotises people. and did any else feel like Jeffries was trying to anchor dr. phil?

after savoy and the don were done talking and the crowd was asked to raise their hands, most people were OK with the communiy. At he end of the show, after jeffries, almost everyone said they were creeped out by the community.

Jeffries needs to cut his hair and stop acting like a little bitch.

-Zeus

The media hardly ever bothers to do research.

I just finished watching the episode and it's very apparent Dr. Phil had an agenda. His agenda was to cater to the women of his audience by making the PUA community look like a bunch of creepy, manipulative, con artists that steal women's money. It was apparent what he was doing. He brings out the true PUA guys and shows the good and true part of it, then brings the douche Ross out and ties him to the PUA community and then finishes off with a women that got her money stolen. Yeah, he said that the women had nothing to do with the PUA community, but he knows good and god damn well that people are going to tie ALL three things together. Read no further than the comments to see that shit.

Ross Jeffries is a HUGE douche bag, and he's been pissed off that Mystery and Style got all the fame and glory, and he kept being known as the creepy guy that used hypnosis to get girls in bed.

The solution is simple. Stop using blatent Mystery/Style/Juggler/whoever you worship lines. Take their theory, their principles, and apply it to yourself.
This is only a disadvantage if you are regurigitating someone else's lines, which are now wide spread.

There are more than 'opinion' openers.

You can kiss a girl without asking 'do you want to kiss me'.

You can be you.

Think how fun that would be...

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- Difference

Or go Gunwitch Method like I'm doing =P