Hi guys I have heard a lot of people asking for some help on getting out of LJBF with a girl and making her a lover from a friend...

I myself was in LJBF zone one time... had one-itis and wanted to get that girl... when I was transitioning from AFC to a PUA... and I myself had seeked advise for that here on this forums... that helped me out a lot...

So thought would share it with you guys SORRY for making it this long!!!

So here it goes...

I started calling this
PUSH PULL w/ Friends Zone play... ... haha


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PART 1

As Juggler has said...
Make sure that she understands and gets the point that u can walk away and you are walking away... and she is not something that can hold you back... and now you just think of her as a good friend and no more have those ROMEO feelings for her...

You dont need to tell her verbally that you are just thinking of her as a freind but make her feel like she is the one who is stuck in your LJBF zone and not the other way around you in her LJBF zone... as these are two different things... you have your freinds zone in which she is stuck and you no longer are in her friends zone.... makes sense...

You wanna make her feel like she has to work her way out of your LJFB zone to get you now....


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PART 2

How do you imply this and convey the message to her that she is in your LJBF zone???

Simple, freely infront of her pickup chicks...flirt with them... and just pretend you are no more in that state where u like her as a ROMEO (so basically no intimate feelings for her is left in u) ...lol... since you have the ability to get any girl u want.. and she can c it as well since u are pickin up girls right in front of her...

Once she feels that she is in ur LJBF zone and u r not in hers... she will come around... but you should not show her any IOI's, ofcourse compliment her back IF she compliments u... otherwise when u are doing all this no IOI and if you do get IOI's from her... flirt back with her (reward her)... but certainly not give into her... you wanna make her feel like she wants u more then u need her... basically PULLING HER TOWARDS YOU and then PUSH HER AWAY AGAIN...

If u show IOI's first gauranteed you are ending up in her LJBF zone... and starting it over again and decreasing the watever chances of success u have/had left w/ her...

This can tend to take some time, and depends on how SOLID your game is at this stage... but she will come around if you keep doing this PUSH/PULL and play her as if she were your friend... and again no need to tell this verbally to her... let ur actions show it to her...

I would suggest you to look around the forums and get some more info on PUSH/PULL and advices to work around with that...

Dont worry if it takes some time for any of you, it might even take a month or more... lol... but she will come around...

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PART 3

Do expect some shit tests coming on your way... from her...

Simplest example:- She might ask you "Do you still like me?", if you answer yes... GAME OVER and RESTART...

But here is wat I would do... If she asked Do you still like me... you might wanna answer oo yea why not absolutely...(till now she is thinkin OK he still does like me) and then addon I mean you are a great person, a great friend...absolutely... y not??? so basically using CAT STRING THEORY... see you pulled her in for a while and pushed her away at the same time... this makes her want you more...

And This will make her wanna get the answer so bad that she might ask you the same question again and again... but never answer yes... till the time you kno that ... it would not hurt you to shift phase/gears and build attraction and continue with the rest of the game on her...

NOTE:
Don't be a FOOL who does not realize countless IOI's that girl is throwing and showing you that she wants you... and you are still stuck at the neggin and PUSH/PULL... once u see that she is showing or has started showing INTEREST... at the right time SHIFT GEARS... move in and phase change... now that u already have her wanting u just follow the rest of ur game like u would do on any other girl...

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Alright guys have fun... As of right now this is all I can think of... I think this should be good enough for any of you stuck in LJFB zone and help you get out of there and get the ball rolling again for you...


I myself am a beginner PUA so dont have that much experience... but thought would help out any of you guys frustrated and wanting to make that friend a lover...

I really would like to thank SIN7 for helping me out on this... a lot of help I got from him...

Feel free to PM me with any questions you have on this...

ENJOY!!!

P.S.:- Comments and Corrections are always appreciated... so if any other PUA buddy wants to add more on to this, please do so.. and by all means if there are any mistakes please correct them...

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“To win you've got to stay in the game.”

PART 1 IS CLUTCH IF U HAVE ONEITIS U NEED TO FLIP IT QUICK ALL, IF U DON'T KNOW IF U HAVE IT HERE'S THE EASIST SIMPTOM'S SHE'S ALL U THINK ABOUT, YOUR SAD AS HELL AT THE FACT THAT SHE ISN'T YOUR'S AND OR YOU FEEL LIKE NOTHING ELSE MATTERS AND THAT IF SHE QUIT STRINGING YOU ALONG U WOULD BE CRUSHED. FUCK THAT IF THIS IS YOU YOUR NOT RUNNING GAME YOUR GAME OVER, U NEED TO STEP BACK AND BREAK COMMUNICATION TILL SHE CALL'S YOU IF SHE DOESN'T CALL AT LEAST WAIT A WEEK BUT U GOT A LOT OF WORK BECAUSE SHE SEE'S U AS SOMEONE WITH NO VALUE. STOP WAITING ON HER BECKING CALL I KNOW U WANT TO SEE HER, TELL HER NO YOUR DOING SOMETHING ELSE. HANG OUT WITH YOUR FRIENDS THAT ARE GIRLS SO WHEN SHE DOES CALL YOUR OUT WITH OTHER GIRLS. ALWAYS BE HAVING FUN NEVER BE BORED NEVER BE SITTING AROUND BE GETTING READY TO DO SOMETHING DON'T LET THEM THINK YOU'VE BEEN SITTING AROUND WAITING ON THEY'RE CALL YOU ARE A V.I.P. WITH MANY THINGS TO DO TODAY. REMEBER THEY'RE LUCKY TO SEE U NOT VICE VERSA SO LET THEM NO IT AND ALWAYS AHOW IT DON'T JUST SPEAK IT U CAN'T BE BUSY BUT ALWAYS ABLE TO HANG OUT WITH HER. SPIT A LIL GAME AT HER FRIENDS THIS IS GREAT JUST SUBTLE THOUGH AND DON'T ACT ON IT IF U ACTUALLY LIKE THE CHICK IF U JUST WANA F CLOSE WHO CARE'S, OTHERWISE BARLEY ANY KINO ALL YOUR TRYING TO DO IS CREATE A GOOD BOND WITH A FRIEND OF HERS TO CREATE A "MOUTHPIECE" BECAUSE WHEN YOUR NOT AROUND DHV THIS CHICK WILL BE DOING IT FOR U IT WORX. KEEP YOUR EMOTIONS IN CHECK U CANNOT SHOW YOUR EMOTIONS IT IS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS, I'LL THROW MORE ON LATER BUT LEAVE U WITH THIS LAST BUT NOT LEAST THE GAME IS NEVER OVER MEANING U CANNOT STOP GAMMING HER UNTILL SHE IS TRULY YOUR'S WHETHER THAT MEANS WIFE GIRLFRIEND OR F-CLOSE WHATEVER U WANT WITH THE GIRL DON'T STOP GAMING TILL U GET THERE, I SPEAK FROM EXPERINCE AND I JUST MADE THIS MISTAKE IM NOT IN THE LJBF STAGE YET BT IT'S CLOSE SO NOW I GOT MY HEAD STRAIGHT AND I'M READY TO GAME
DON'T GET TRAPPED IN THE WHIRLWIND OF LIFE BE THE WHIRLWIND!

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"Quality over Quanity, but through Quality Quanity can be acheived"

Could you use this material for an ex? My ex still talks to me, and initiating conversations over msn. I don't see her quite often, but she wanted us to be friends and I'm OK with that. The reason we broke up is that we both didn't feel the attraction anymore cause we saw each other like once a week. It doesn't really feel right, and I prolly want to get back with her.

Can I use this material? It looks very promising tbh!

Okiokdan... Yes ofcourse you can use this material here... just be sure that you never portray yourself as if you really need her... like I have mentioned in the post...

See the basic thing to understand here is that you have already been through couple of stage of game with her... Like for example connecting with her emotionally which might have made her get with you...

So the main thing you want to get back between you is the attraction phase which is the First Stage of MM... so yea, just follow the guide... and ITS GAME TIME!!!

and always keep in mind what juggler has said... that sometime you have to walk away to win her... PM me if you have any questions...

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“To win you've got to stay in the game.”

what if the girl is turned off by "playas" so flirting with girls infront of her wouldn't be a good idea. do you have to make the flirting subtle im guessing?

Bman, most of the girls in the whole world are turned off by "playas", except the one time when they are looking for that special satisfaction.
So basically the flirting with girls infront of her is going to make her jealous of you (girls compete alot in this kind of thing), since she thought you like her, not the other girl you are trying to hit.