Hi Rye!

I'm a senior in high school and there is this cute girl sitting next to me (I don't like numbering girls). Anyway she is the only girl in the class. We were talking, she started to playfully hit me and she started massaging my arm. Anyway, I quickly used a neg (which was stupid of me because we were already in the comfort zone) and I said "you know your the ugliest girl in this class". After I said it I realized how totally fucked up it was so I tried to follow it up with "because your the only one in this class". Anyway, she talked way less after that. Although she's cool with it now and we get along great, my question isn't based on this particular situation but more about how to recover after a poor neg that ventures onto insult?

Thanks

To recover from a badly calibrated neg, I suggest thinking fast. Sure sounds vague right? That's because that's the idea.

"You know you're the ugliest girl in this class." *doesn't get the response you were hoping for and you realise you fucked up* "Because you're the only one in this class, so here's the plan;" Reframe (this is highly important, because by breaking frame, you can make her forget about the insult) by changing your body position; so if you're sitting facing forward, push your chair back and switch so that you're facing her, but remember not to completely square up, sit at about 15 degrees off and slightly over the shoulder when you talk to her. "You and me are gonna go to the mall tomorrow and we'll hit up some clothing stores. Then we'll bring out that inner beauty and we'll also be the best dressed people in class. I bet you'll look good in red. "

By transitioning into something else, where you can compliment her by telling her she has inner beauty, you take her mind off the insult and even if she remembers it, she should accept it as just being nervous/socially awkward and forgive your mistake.

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Hey I have a online game question. So I met this girl through a friend of a friend last friday and she was really in to me but she still seemed really shy. I sent her a facebook message the next day calling her out on this and her replies seem really playful but she takes like a day and a half to 2 days to respond to each message. Am I wasting my time here? is this an IOD? I was thinking of calling her out on this to and maybe asking for her phone number so i could contact her easier but im still wondering if im kicking a dead horse here? I've only got 2 messages from her and yea i really don't know if shes really busy/not a facebook, computer person (her profile is pretty bare) or if shes not interested. Do you have any suggestions as to what I should do?

Get her phone number and call her. Texting is terrible for trying to initiate something.

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Yet another.

here-vp104532.html#104532

http://www.seductionbase.com/seduction/ ... en/46.html

It seems that I am not aware of something here, i didn't understand it as a opener.

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Hi
I need advice

I met this girl at a café a few weeks ago. Talked for 10 minutes, great conversation. Got her contact info. I called her up not long ago and asked her out. She agreed on a date.

A few hours before the date, she TXT me “i’m sorry can’t make it because bla bla bla, next time”.

Now what?

Thanks

Hey Rye, great thread.

The problem I have is changing the subject or continuing the conversation. After I've drained my opener for what it's worth, what would I talk about next? How long do average pick-ups last for? When would I know to #Close? (if possible) Would I do another routine afterwards? My big problem is the transition phase from one topic to another. How would I make it seem not random?

Thanks. (I'm in high school so the mall would be my field of choice.)

wadup.

how do you get over the need (every human naturally has) for an emotional connection with someone.

most guys fill that need by getting a girlfriend, end up getting too emotionally attached, become dependant, and become chodes. Just to have her take advantage of you, break your heart, and send you down a spiral of depression.

how do you truly achieve the 'i really don't give a fuck' attitude... pretty much?

peace.

Hi Rye,

I work in this company with many employees. My floor alone has about 60 employees, each divided by cubicles. A few cubicles away from mine, i like this girl, but she don't know me. She seen me walking around, but thats it.

Any ideas how i can initiate a conversation wit her? And then continue to be with her, like if there's anyway i could initiate lunch on a daily basis n not get rejected? And then going home & out together?

network

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Hi man, i posted this in the forum but did not get the unswer i wanted, maybe you can help:

How to respond to a HB that asks you whether or not you have a GF?

Is it ok to mention (indirectly) that you have a girlfriend in the conversation to lower the bitch shield, make you look less needy, preselected and etc?

Is it ok if after some connection is created and HB ask about you GF, you respond with something like "she is very hot but there is nothing serious about this relationship" and follow up with "beauty is common but i look for more" routine?

Memento answered me:

I never say that I have a girlfriend, I say something that communicates that I have women who are close to me in my life who are of high value and who I protect and care very much for. It would be better for you to communicate that than to say you you have a girlfriend.

- Memento
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I understand what you are saying, agree with it 100% and try to implement it as well as i can...

but still i often find women asking me whether or not i have girlfriend way before i am able to communicate the kind of image you were talking about.

Also i found myself not being comfortable saying that i don't have a girlfriend because it seems like it lowers my status, and it feels as DLV.

PS

the funny part is that i actually have a girlfriend that is HB 10 + intelligent + makes three times more money than me. We have dated for 3,5 years now so the sex got really boring. Also because i was fateful all the time my pick up abilities and skill went down dramatically

PPS

It may seem like I'm boasting here but the point is its hard for me to take that look the girls give me when i say i don't have a GF. Like why don't you have one? It there something wrong with you? When I'm actually dating someone that is better then them in all aspect. Maybe it goes down to the time i was still virgin and felt really embarrassed to admit that i really don't have a girlfriend?

Hi Rye,

I'm Having some troubles with DHV, can you give me some examples of good DHV to use and how to use the PUSH/PULL effectively right now its the only part of my game thats wreckin my head!!


Thanks
Mr.A,

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The point of an opener is to just start a conversation, that's it. You can say, "Hi" but then you have to have something to follow it up with that will spark some interest. The reason this is an opener, is because it's just something funny and random, but it will spark some slight interest and then from there your next topic will probably hook them.

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So depending on whether her excuse what a real one, or you think it was her way of getting out of things, you either move on, or you call her after having waited a few days and you tell her you're going to the mall, or gonna be doing something and she should tag along. If she flakes again, then move on.

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This is a common problem with people just starting out, because you are still getting comfortable just talking to random people for no reason aside from meeting them and trying to pick the girls up. It makes it difficult to think quickly sometimes, because so much of your mind is occupied thinking about the fact that you're talking to these people, but with practice it gets much easier.

Think of it like talking to your friends. When you first made some friends, you didn't have a lot to talk about, you didn't know what to say to each other, but after a while, you grew accustomed to talking about situational things, then stories about your past and dreams for the future, then you end up just talking about random stuff that has little to no value, but you enjoy the conversations anyways. That's basically how pickup progresses. The more often you do this and the more comfortable you are doing it, the easier it is to do without thinking so much, just like as you have more friends in your life, you become more used to making friends and having good conversations with them.

If you can't think of something that you can link to from the topic you were talking about, something you heard someone around you say, something you just thought of, something you saw today (that's a lot of stuff, so this shouldn't happen too often), then just say something random.

PUA: "Sasquatch tomato." *act as if you said nothing strange*
HB: "What?!" *leans in*
PUA: "Oh. You don't know how to play."
HB: "Play what?"
PUA: "This game that me and my good friends play." *you're inviting her into your 'inner circle' so she gets interested*
PUA: "You say an animal and then a plant and just make it totally random and see who can come up with the most ridiculous stuff. It's all about quick thinking and having some fun!" *now she's gonna try to qualify herself*
HB: "Leprechaun banana!" *smiles*
PUA: "Leprechauns are people too you know!" *push her playfully*


Just ridiculous stuff like that, that you can make up in 2 seconds and a couple random words, then you have time to think as you make it up. Work it into a story about something you saw that reminded you of it. Tell a good epic story that takes some twists and by the end, she'll be so hooked (make sure that you involve her and aren't just talking at her the whole time) that she'll forget whatever the lame thing that started it was.

This stuff happens all the time with your friends, just random things and you think nothing of it, so it isn't gonna be weird, she's gonna think you're unique for being so interesting and fun.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye