So I'm listening to my girl talking to a friend of hers. Her friend just broke up with her boyfriend. My girl says, "Well that just means there's someone else out there for you."

What do we as PUA's know? If the woman is not attracted, we did something wrong. We've got to improve ourselves.

With women, the problem is "out there". This is not an isolated incident. I've got friends at work with guy problems and they aren't asking themselves, "How can I fix myself so that the next guy is better" or "How can I fix the guy I'm with."

Knowing that women always think that the world around them has to change, how can we exploit this to get more women?

I don't have a LOT of experience and I think this question will create a nice discussion..

So, I belive that, as PUA's, we have to create attraction as usual and then, when the girl gives her first signs of expectations about you bending down to her will, we must show that we MAY change.. we actually have no problem with changing but she won't get it easy.. I think that if this is done in a very subtle way, you can keep a girl hooked on you for a long time. You see.. she will always think "he's the one!!!" because you are not completly against changing.

I may be saying a lot of shit right now.. as I said, I'm not a veteran but.. I tried =)

Those are good points and it has me wondering about as to how I can go about demontrating DHV better without comming across like a complete jerk and without bowing down to her demands and wishes and at the moment I just have not quite got it all figured out.

I have also not quite figured out how to deal with the cockblock issue when she is around another guy such as her husband or boyfriend without him wanting to turn around and stomp your brains in just for talking to her. This kind of concerns me because of the jealousy issue.

I am also not quite sure as to how to prevent a woman or any of her friends, family, relatives or the rest of society from thinking that you are some kind of a stalker. I have been trying to figure that out for years, but so far I just have not really come up with any hard and fast answers on that issue.

I have been thinking about it as I know that it is a very real issue that come up and I would like to be able to avoid it. I also would like to be able to avoid any charges of sexual harassment as well.


Does anyone know how to deal with these issues better?

I do think this is a very interesting issue and I hope it does create a lot of discussion.

I like your idea Santos, about presenting her with the bait that "I may change.... in time". I think it's interesting because we're never indicating that we WILL change, so no harm-no foul if we don't. We're just saying that we have the potential to change.

LOL. That's beautiful. The more I think about it the more I like it.

Isn't it? ahah

The thing is that I still find hard to indicate that we MAY change. It has to be done with mastery to sound natural and truthful.
I think stories are very useful here as usual..

If you have any ideas post them!