But how? Lol, I'm kidding. I think a lot of mistakes I make is not maintaining eye contact. When I have a conversation, I can't help but look away after let's say 10-15 seconds. It just gets uncomfortable at times. But hey, I'm a nub, so I need some advice.

Should I just always maintain eye control and just look at her while talking until she looks away? Will that be construed as creepy?

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Its fine to maintain EC for 10-15 seconds then look elsewhere...its the intial EC that you wana hold til they look away. You wana do this with a smile on your face, but dont overdo it...also smile with your eyes, not just your mouth.

After youve started talking its normal to break EC and look other places...but the floor is a no-no and up makes you look odd...look around as if your not intrested, side to side.

Dont use breaking EC as a chance to catch a glance at thier brests...use it as a chance to ftc and show disintrest.

Hope this helps

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"Be the same, only better."

Have Eye Contact 60-90% of the time, if she's looking at you, you should do the same, when your talking you can look around so you don't just look like a statue, be alive and energetic, smile often, and yeah don't look down or up, Blink as many times as you want, some people(like myself) make the mistake of keeping eye contact without blinking, it causes your eyes to water and reden, lol if your not carefull you might feel like your crying and make you so much more uncomefortable..

Don't always look at her, especially if your using the mystery method. You want to seem uninterested, unless you've already transitioned to being interested. You can almost pretend to be pretending to listen lol if that made any sense.

I actually teach my students how to eye fuck and how using the eye works. It's a form of advanced NLP where she would be aroused, but I don't teach NLP.

So, anyways, eye contact works like this:

1) If she looks at you, stare at her back into her eyes. Tilt head down if she is shy and look into her eyes. That'll disarm her if she's insecure or uncomfortable.

2) Look, but don't stare. What I mean by this is that if she's talking, look at her. When she's done, look away. Then when you guys get back to vibing, look at her again until she's done. Do light nods to catch her attention.

3) Truth or lie. If a girl EVER looks to her left, she's constructing the image. Her left would be all lies. If she looks to the right, it's true. But, here's the catch: Right and up is her thinking about her past, moving straight to the right would be her answering with facts, and moving to the right and down is her thinking about the situation. Easy.

So, there you go.

I could also tell you how to disarm using eye contact when it comes to AMOGs.

Lol how do u disarm amogs?

I have a funny story to tell actually. I was sitting in spanish class sleeping on my arm which was extended. My hand hanged off the desk and right behind the semi-AMOGs chair. Now this person is an AFC when it comes to women, but tries to pose the AMOG to other men because he's big, tall, fat, ugly, stupid, and has not a trace of charm. Now I must remind everyone that this man is a stupid f*ck. In the winter, with his sweatshirt on, he would make it his ritual and duty to open the window to the farthest it could go. I found it slightly cold, so I politely ask him if he could shut it or take off his sweatshirt. Without exaggeration, he shuts it perhaps half an inch at most.

So that day when I chose to sleep, he told me to move my desk back. Another annoying ritual of his. So I politely move back without a word. Now as I was sleeping, the teacher handed out this ridiculous crossword puzzle where we tried to name every word we knew that started with a p for example. And even worse was that people were actually trying even though grades do not matter to this point because we're all seniors and going to college. So as I was slumbering peacefully, the AMOG chose to have two girls to work with him. Now of course, he's a total AFC to them, just talking about fluff and trying to be interested. Shit, his best flirting line is "Oh, [girls name], you're gonna fail that test. Oh you always do that blah blah blah" By the way, theres an HB8 to the right of me whom he usually talks to. As I was sleeping, he slammed his chair into my hand and I leaped back in agony and fury. Looking at him with a confused and painful daze, I gaped for an explanation: an expression of sorrow, penance, or even some look of repent. Instead he said, well I told you to move back. That f@kcer, I thought to myself. Thats just adding insult to injury. I tell him hes a big, fat ugly faggot. He turns and says I should hang myself. I smile and say, "Fine but that still won't change the fact that you're ugly." So that's my little rant. As for how I could have handled that better, who knows.

So enlighten me.

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"I came, I saw, I conquered"
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dude, dont let this guy bully you. first of all, it doesnt make a good impression on the hb8(or any other girls) if they see you being bullied/pushed around by other guys. second, others will see you being treated badly and they'll think its ok to disrespect you as well. if his bullying gets attention drawn to you, then just tear him up with words. everyone will laugh and be on your side if you make slick insults and comebacks. just read the situation and be the alpha male.

In any case, the next time something like this happens let him know that it s NOT okay with you. with a serious face and tone, just tell him "dont do that to me (whatever he was doing) because i dont like it". This is his warning to not fuck with you. If you say this right, 90% of the time he'll take you seriously and back off. If for whatever reason he keeps at it, stick him in his face. either that or smack him really hard. Personally, i like to give 3 warnings before hitting someone, but usually it only takes one. good luck.

That isn't an absolute, merely a statistical probability. I'm the reverse and when I look to the right I am constructing images. The odds are that she is a left = constructed image person, but never assume absolutes.

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True, I read somewhere that in interrogation techniques, the technique is not completely reliable.

But anyhow, I find that sometimes when I can maintain eye contact while she's speaking, it gets intense. You can feel the emotions in your chest rising and you know the girl can too. She begins to blush, her pupils dilate and you know there's this burning animal desire to just jump off the chair, over the desk and grab her.

But I think what's best is when she then breaks eye contact with you. Essentially you just eye fucked. And now she feels insecure, emotionally unstable and its an easy way to go in for the kill. Have any of you guys had this type of experience?

Also, how far does making eye contact to one another until you become creepy. What if theres a social reason why you can't initiate conversation, like a teacher is talking and you can't say anything. Or you're with your parents. Or some dumb shit like that.

And would this be a good approach? If you're relatively close to her, you make positive eye contact and she shows IOI. And you just grin, and say "You're cute. What's your name?" Or if you know her "Hey, I haven't noticed before (a neg), but you're actually pretty cute. How's it going?"

In essence the approach is rather direct and she may respect it as a DHV as she finds it to be full of confidence. Of course, in order to do this successfully one needs a lot of positive energy. So I suppose unless you're timid, you shouldn't pull it off as you'll look like a creep.

What do you guys think?

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"Veni, vidi, vici."
"I came, I saw, I conquered"
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True. I just found out today about this.

I was born left handed, but my wrist got messed up when I was little, so I write with my right. I could write with both hands with minimal effort, so I guess that makes me ambidextrous.

But anyways, back to the point... Something I just learned today was about opposites. What I mean is that: Left hand looks right to lie and right hand looks left to lie. I dunno what the fuck I am because I write with both hands.

And now, to the topic: If an AMOG is bullying you, he's not alpha at all. I would befriend him then ignore him.