Good to hear despite you're into the game you still have the ability to really fall for a girl.
I sorta lost that bit for a lil while before I found back on my way, dropping most of the canned stuff and only resorting to it when I really run dry of material. Still, I also failed recently by not playing the game strong enough on a party-girl I had categorized mistakenly as a good girl. I had a little one-itis for some time. Correct categorization is important when you're not 100% adherent to the game and using mainly your own personality. There's always someone out there who just isnt falling for you... Ah well...

Anyways, maybe you can just try to be open with her, dont tell her bout the game and you being a PUA, but tell her you tried not to show her too much IOIs in order not to scare her off because you really like her. Tell her you didnt mean to be mean to her, tell her your drive not to show your interest in her backfired. You're not lying to her, because what a PUA really does when he's negging is exactly that, trying not to show too much interest by dropping IODs. Just neglect the fact that there was a game-plan behind it
I think if she really is a good girl, and the way you described her she probably is, she will most likely accept that. Remember, the man never really chooses the woman. He merely tries to make the woman choose him, even when he plays the game like a master. Some girls are just not receptive to the game because they have a less developed drive to replicate (given probably by her religiousness) and hence, although you probably placed the DHVs and everything else right, she wasnt looking for a player. Maybe she's just looking for someone to understand her.

I would give it a shot if I was in your shoes and really into the girl like I understood you are.
I wish you the best of luck, bro! Let us know!

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Don't hate the player - Hate the game!

I'm a specialist with "good girls." Here's what you've got to get straight before anything moves forward:

1. Gaming a "good girl" is NOT the same as other day or night game- the routines don't translate the same. Asking a "good girl" about Jealous Girlfriends isn't going to get you the same reaction as other girls will, because...

2. Girls who TRULY believe in their faith will put that faith before anything else. So, any person who conflicts with those beliefs is instantly DLV'ed. For instance, some "good girls" will end a relationship with a guy if the guy tries to make out with them (one of my chick friends actually told me that one). Sex is out of the question. True-faith girls put morality as DHVs. They consider virginity in a guy as high as others consider sexual prowess, etc.

3. There are many girls who go to church, but don't actually have a real faith. Those girls are practically the same as girls without any religious views at all- they do the same things, but show up to church to make their family happy.

4. True-faith girls have a different culture. No profanity, no public affection, and often, very few boyfriends. Everything you do is amplified with a true-faith girl. They are not usually pursued by many guys, so negging is almost completely inappropriate. DHV-ing can be as simple as telling her you like her. I have found that giving such a girl a compliment on her looks is big DHV.

5. Also, being friends with a true-faith girl is almost as powerful, and sometimes more effective, than flat-out gaming her. I know a few girls that wont date a guy unless they are good friends first.

Basically, if you're going for a girl with a real faith, you must SLOW down and TURN down every aspect of your game.

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Interesting approach. It's good that we have a more informed approach towards certain girls.

Does this also apply to women who are very inexperienced?

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I would normally agree with lefty, but i read this post a few days ago and a situation came up to where i was actually able to run some game on a religious girl.

this girl and I had some mutual friends, but had never met, so when i saw her outside a concert, i figured that it was as good a time as any.

Now i wouldn't recommend this in a bar scene, or club. or if it doesn't coincide with your personality.

she was sitting with some friends of mine, so i went up and sat on her lap. introduced myself, and ran a routine.

after buildin a little rapport, i told her she was my new girlfriend, and told her to call me later. (without giving her my number)


she got it from a friend, and called, and i kept the outgoing/forward attitude and it worked great, until the bedroom.

I don't imagine any attitude would have gotten me any further than I went with that one, but who knows.

if you're looking for a relationship, and are willing to put in the effort to get her to get more intimate, then i'd recommend C&F. worked for me anyways.

if you're looking for sex. don't bother. not worth your time and effort.

good luck fellas

I would normally agree with lefty, but i read this post a few days ago and a situation came up to where i was actually able to run some game on a religious girl.

this girl and I had some mutual friends, but had never met, so when i saw her outside a concert, i figured that it was as good a time as any.

Now i wouldn't recommend this in a bar scene, or club. or if it doesn't coincide with your personality.

she was sitting with some friends of mine, so i went up and sat on her lap. introduced myself, and ran a routine.

after buildin a little rapport, i told her she was my new girlfriend, and told her to call me later. (without giving her my number)


she got it from a friend, and called, and i kept the outgoing/forward attitude and it worked great, until the bedroom.

I don't imagine any attitude would have gotten me any further than I went with that one, but who knows.

if you're looking for a relationship, and are willing to put in the effort to get her to get more intimate, then i'd recommend C&F. worked for me anyways.

if you're looking for sex. don't bother. not worth your time and effort.

good luck fellas

Very good posts here. I'm in the same situation

I dont know, I dont even find religious girls anywhere, seriously ^^

Where do you pick them up haha

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Don't hate the player - Hate the game!

Kiwi-Indian,

You are right on my Brother! Church girls are no different than secular girls. Sometimes they can almost worse than the secular ones. Sarge full blast man!

Peace

Wait up, hold a minute!

What are you talking about TK? Because this is a good, religious, nice girl she deserves to be respected? Of course, but you're implying that the bad, naughty, party girls should not?

If you think that running a game and treating someone as a target is degrading, than you got serious issues my friend. Everyone should be respected, regardless of gender, but same goes for gaming people. It's just a skillset that a PUA uses to get what he wants from an interaction. Morality doesn't depend on how advanced this skill is. There are good and bad people out there, who treat other people just as a means to an end, but these people can be AFC's or PUA's.

"If a girl is indeed the good girl, you need to make a connection for her to respond positively.." Well yeah, you need to make a connection with any girl, or person in general to make a connection with them. One of major steps in the MM or any other attraction model is connection. Of course do it too soon and you get in the dreaded LJBF.

If your intentions are good, feel free to run all the game in the world on her. It's all fair if you're trying to attract a girl that you're gonna treat right.

I've met church going girls, and as a matter of fact I went to church with the pastor's neice. The fact that we spent most of the time in the janitor's closet is besides the point.

I ran into two girls last weekend, dubbed one of them the good girl, and the other my devil, and guess what, the good girl ended up going down on me that night in the back of a cab. So just assuming that someone is a good girl and not fun and adventurous is being judgemental, wouldn't you say?

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Fudamental mystery my friends. Game about how growing up teasing was a way for u n ur family to show affection for one another.

id say to back up give her some space, the come back to her. While dhving about the good things u do