I like your attitude. It's very accepting of whatever circumstances come your way.

An old Indian proverb that catches the essence of your idea is this:

"If you can do something about it, why worry? If you can't do something about it, why worry?"

Essentially this quote can relate to rejection or acceptance. Despite whatever outcome we do, worry will not change the outcome whatsoever. So we should learn to accept our circumstances with equanimity and approach life, or in this case women, headlong.

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"Veni, vidi, vici."
"I came, I saw, I conquered"
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Thank you for the compliment.

I learned that from Ross Jeffries. He made the point to me that you should forget about what the outcome is going to be and to just be willing to go out and fuck things up. If they don't like you, then they are not going to like you. If they like you, then they will like you.

In either case you still come out the winner because if they don't like you, the at least you will discover if they have class and taste.

I've also gotten it from being rejected, lied to and scamed so many times that nowdays I just really don't give a shit as to what happens and I figure that if women are going to treat us like success objects and go after our money, then why should we not treat them like sex objects and go after them just for the sex and then we are done we can discard them like an empty beer can.

I can't say that I am perfect at the game and there is still much for me to learn and improve upon, but at least I am getting there little by little and one day I know that I will be successful no matter what.

hahaha i just pictured getting rejected and just going "allllll riiiight" and stalking off to find your next prey

wow good post definatly worth a try i would never have thought of that so their is hope also in the begining im sure u get rejected alot which im sure i will be but i think the key is to stick with and try time and time again dont matter the result in the end it will pay off

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One tatic that I came up with is..

When (if) a girl rejects you, you say to her...
"Oh, that's fine.. at least I can go home being sure that it's not my fault"
with a grin on your face.

What do you think?

A few thoughts about these posts:
1. Most importantly, WHAT IS REJECTION? Most people might call it rejection when a woman responding negatively, and it looks like she's about to walk away. Not me. Thats just a shit test to me. KEEP BARRELLING THROUGH THE SET NO MATTER HOW BADLY IT IS GOING!!!!

Don't get phased at all, just say "hey wait, before you go, I noticed something really interesting about you." Then wait...be confident that now YOU are in control, because she will be dying to know what you noticed about her. Then say anything about her (either a cold read of what kind of person she is, or something similar like the way she smiles, something she's wearing, ect.) The key is to not care about "rejection" so much that you literally act like you didn't even hear it. Just continue on with yet another routine, and keep barreling through. Many times, a woman "rejects" you just to see if you are man enough to take control and get what you want by continuing the conversation.

Of course even with this new "Barrel through" attitude, you still will have times where the woman just walks away. But it will be a lot less of the time, especially if you are prepared with a lot of good routines. Don't just leave it to chance. Make sure you have routines ready to go that you can recite with ease. Good ones that will allow you to keep barelling through and keep the conversation interesting.

2. If you DO finally get rejected to the point where they walk away, then I agree completely with these posts on how to enjoy rejection, laugh at it, ect. Good advice.

One warning to newbies...just having an attitude like that will sometimes work, but sometimes not. It usually takes VERY HARD work and lots of time to really get good at this stuff. Don't expect one night you'll go out and everything will change. I've done that before and been disappointed. I was in another state and I said, fuck it, no one knows me here, Im just going to talk to EVERYONE! And I went out and froze up. I said to myself, just TALK, you're thousands of miles from home. But I couldn't.

Fear of rejection is so ingrained into you, that its hard to change in a short period of time, no matter what attitude you have. But if you are willing to put in the time to practice practice practice, you will learn to get over it. So adopt the attitude that rejection is funny, and enjoy rejection. I completely agree with these posts. But understand that you might still freeze up and thats ok. Adopt that attitude night after night, practicing and practicing and you will slowly break through.

It's funny that you say that about freezing up as I seem to do that a lot. It's not like I don't know routines or anything it's just that I tend to freeze up and so far I just have not really learned how to get past it.

I guess part of why I tend to freeze up is that I am either so deathly afraid that if I fuck up around other guys that aren't players, then they are going to misunderstand and want to beat my brains in, while on the other hand I tend to freeze up because I am afraid that someone is going to start thinking that I am some kind of a nut for wanting to change myself and either want to call the cops, or throw me in some kind of looney bin as I guess that I am just not really all that good at explaining myself an in doing things as simple as asserting myself and in asking for what I really want and that is an area that I am working on.

I guess like most people I am afraid of making a fool or s spectacle of myself and I have not really learned how to deal with that effectively as of yet, but I am trying.

We can't have the good without the bad, just the same as we can't have the bad without the good. What we have to try to do is to forget about the polar opposites, and just go in with a continue on mentality. As in, if you get rejected just continue on. If you get a compliment just continue on. Just think of this, one night of sarging, no matter what the results, isn't going to affect your life greatly.

Another thing is to cut down on dithering. Don't be indecisive about approaching a girl. Either approach or don't approach. Don't keep on willing yourself to approach when it's obvious you won't. Instead, redirect your mental attention to something else. Talk to your friends for instance, or concentrate more on your dancing. Just forget about the chick and then once you feel better, once you feel more energized, then try to approach the chick.

What it's all about is concentration. It's all about focus. If you're thinking of all the bad things that might happen if you approach, then it's obviously going to make it harder. Also, if you think what such a loser you are for not approaching (which I do) then that's going to make it harder as well, as you're effectively draining out your self-confidence. Instead, if we redirect our attention elsewhere it prevents us from losing our power through needless thinking.

One of the best ways to do this is this. Okay, you see a sexy chick. Well, she has a nice figure, nice tits and all the rest. But look at her dress. Note what sort of material it is. Also note what accessories she's wearing. Shoes also, and earrings. Think so deeply about these things that you establish such a mental interest in her that you simply just have to approach her to find out about the woman in all the material objects.

Women will be surprised when you seem to be taking a genuine interest in what she's wearing. It's a good sign that you don't want to just strip them down to their birthday suit. And this will make them curious if you do want to strip them down, if you do like the person behind the cloth, as it were. They will want to move the conversation away from image, and get into feelings. Once this is done, it is fairly easy to establish an emotional connection and before you know it, the two of you will be getting along like a house on fire.

But this takes discipline. It means moving beyond the whole approaching and picking up thing. It means just being there, enjoying yourself as you comfortably can. Don't let yourself get distracted. Don't let your thoughts be plagued by women. They're just women, a slightly different form of man but with attractive sacks on the front. Look beyond and they will want YOU in THEIR bed.

Rejection should never be enjoyed

The reason you are rejected is because:

-you are not good enough
-you didn't try as hard
-you did not learn from mistakes last time.

The only way to triumph over rejection is to learn where you went wrong, was you too forward?did you play her too cold, experiment until you find out what works for you!! I have seen lots of threads and posts that offer great advice, but most do not apply to your lifestyle or your LIFE in general.

But not for one second you should enjoy getting shot down!And it doesn't demonstrate higher value-hahhaah that made me laugh. If you enjoy getting rejected you will accept being shot down!

I could be wrong and it is a horrible tragedy

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Dude, did you even read the post or do you say first thing that comes to your mind after you read the headline?

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This game is automatic. You give it to 'em one time, they come back like addicts.

What do you expect her to do next?Turn around and say actually I will go home with you and have passionate sex the whole night, I will then go down on your limp dick so we can have more!Just so that she won't feel bad that she made you go home alone???


The headline!-Not used to posting.

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If you had an agressive tone on your message, I find it very unecessary. As we all know we are here to learn.

If it was just a nice critique, which I believe it was, I didn't plan saying anything.. just walking off. There's nothing to be said anymore. And if the girl calls you, you can use it against her "oh, now you want me?"

Every guy at some point is going to fail. Thats just a fact of life, and its better to have a good attitude about it then a horse shit attitude. Stay upbeat and work on it or chastise yourself and go through your own personalised hell complements of you. I prefer to be upbeat no matter what.

This advice was great. I love cheating tips. Wisdom like this that lets you skip ahead some spaces.

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Some brilliant stuff about the spin of "rejection" in here guys. If the girl is quality and it might have just been a bitch shield that we can gauge sometimes, then comming back later after you've moved on and trying a diffrent sleazy pick up line or osmething... when she says something along the lines of I've already told you to F off etc... and tries to blow you off again... you can throw out a neg about something like "oh yeah your the skinny girl from so and so... again... you would have expected rejection this time... and by throwing out the neg when she thought you were trying to pick her up... shes the one getting the head fu*k instead of the guys...Move on and see if she or her friends try to qualify to you or if they are just agro monkeys getting defensive...either way... go in the the mind set of stirring some shit up and see if any sticks.

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