Ive posted it before in stiucking points but got no answer in daysand Im kind of on a hurry so sorry if Im breaking laws :p

Hi so, Ive posted before maybe to verbose.
Oki I dated a girl for a time, moved out for a year, came back, she messaged me on orkut. She wanted to exchange some books with me, when in exchanging the books she was happy and so on, but stressed by the semester and exams.
I´ve asked her if she would have time to do something by the weekend to talk a bit she said maybe. I messaged her on internet and asked how was doing She said: "oh I want to take a break (from studies)" So I phone her and said hey let´s take a walk (it was a 3 day hollyday).
She said she couldnt cause she needed to study. She said she couldnt cause she had A LOT to studie. Then messged me again asking if I was liking the book. I phoned back saying yes and asked if she could chat a bit after her class and she said "oooooooh sorry Im full of exams and so on (what is true)".
So she knows I want her and catches the phone and so on. Always answered back messages but doesnt commit to really meet. What should I do? if I insist I´m needy if I give up I get nothing.
Please enlight me.

You're pushing too hard with a girl that doesn't need a push. If you've invited her to do things a couple of times, go find a different girl and hang out with her for a while. Let things calm down before you come back to this girl, then test the waters a bit.

Again, this looks like you fucked up at some earlier point in your game. Whenever you start meeting resistance like this, you need to go back and look at your earlier stages; what could you have done differently that would make this situation disappear? Was she luke-warm when you closed her? Was she not as attracted to you as she should be? Was your close lack-luster? What happened earlier that would make her want to _not_ drop everything to chill with you?

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Heh I know what I screwed up. I screwed up twice. One is I hang out with her once than left to Germany. Not meeting her before leaving, seen her just once at university restaurant and I needed to drop my tablet and so so so I asked her to wait a bit, but her friends too her away.
The date it self also started bad but well was like 2 years ago. First problem, I was a bit late, 10 minutes, second we where not confortable on the beginning cause we went to movies and we didn´t talk we basically just went to the movies and all hapenned inside of the cinema on the beggining and the other hang out was just a walk. On the end I will also looser her friendship I think, so I will be screwed twice. So a big error nas to not be more communicative on the restaurant BUT Ive phoned as soon as ive not found her. But she was already in class than. I´m waiting a bit, well point is I like her for her inteligence and this is so rare now a days :/
problem is confort she must be again convinced I will be there for her. Well this is my humble opinion.

i was in a very similiar situation not too long ago. girl showed a lot if interest in me but was a bit shy. she talked to me all the time. mostly not in person. i had to make the first move in getting her to talk to me in person.

the first time we hung out was just like you, i brought her to a party and we didnt talk that much. i was kinda upset with that. but she's still talking to me frequently and has been complying with me.

my suggestions as of now:
leave her alone for a while. just stop talking. she will most likely get a hold of you within a few days if she likes you. and if she does, DHV big time with her. talk about your busy schedule and dont ask her out right away. instead, do some compliance tests over the next few days, and if she complies, then hint at you 2 hanging out doing something almost jokingly, "some friends and i are going to *wherever* *at this time* " "... if you can behave maybe ill let you hang out with us"

my questions:
how often does she talk to you?
has she shown alot of interest? do you know she likes you?
have you demonstrated high value?
have you knocked her off her pedestal, so she knows shes not too good for you?

I meesed idebntation im tired sorry for this crap edit.
my questions:

*how often does she talk to you?
She was messaging me everyday in Orkut.

*has she shown alot of interest? do you know she likes you?
She seemed always entusiastic on the replys, and on MSN chat.

*have you demonstrated high value?
Depends on what do you consider, she knows I do sports, Im intelligent, do sports, havea good academic background, have loyal friends...

*have you knocked her off her pedestal, so she knows shes not too good for you?
Not, also havent put her in one. At least not consciently.

Thanks a lot fot for the support guys[/b]

i found that a big part of getting this girl to commit to meeting me was letting her know i have plenty of options and im a wanted guy. (you should always do this in your game but she needed it a bit more than others)

you need to dhv about your social life with other girls.
let her know youre ivolved with other girls in your life. dont tell her how, just let her wonder, "is that his friend or possibly his girlfriend?"

for example, girl asked me what i was up to. "i said i was on my way home and had a headache" then "i was gonna go to laurens for the night but im not feeling up for it anymore" itll leave her wondering, "who is this lauren? do i have competition? i better work harder"

and make her qualify herself. if youve read mystery method, theres a ton of ways of doing this. it really helps u not seem needy and implies u have your pick of women and wont lose sleep over her.

when she begins to comply with one of your tests, reward her but then false disqualify. its push-pull theory. demonstrates great value.

how familiar are you with PUA tactics? what have you studied?

Ive read the game and I follow some articles on the forum. Well I dont have classses with her and we have ortogonal schedules at univeristy. what can I say, it may look lame I was thinking about placing a card inside the book before I deliver it back. Seemed for me a fair try I think making her talk now may fuck up things even more.
yep I have some girls for "concorrence" but not sure this shall help cause might seem even worse. IE. oh he is kidding this other girls like he did with me.

it all depends on your frame and who she knows you as. cuz if youve been acting different and suddenly do what im saying, it may not work at all cuz she wouldnt understand.

i dont completely know your situtation but personally, i would not put a card in the book and would not try to get her to talk to you. as long as she knows your not mad at her, (like things didnt end on a bad note) i would stop talking to her until she talks to you. when she does, try a compliance test with her.

and she has to know your not gonna wait around for her and you dont play games. next time she flakes on you just freeze her out. but dont get pissed, puas dont get mad, they shrug it off and make it the girls loss.

thanks for the reply, well sorry for chat posting but still... Well Im kind of freezing out no messages or anything for 5 days and no reason to break it now. Well no reason at least until I finish the book, abouthe card was just an idea, but I will wait for other peoples comments. Still we will have to meet to exchage the books again, personally I was thinking about waiting for one more week until my exams are over. What means I would try to reach her around the middle of the other week, not the next.

if u think she really showed interest. then i would say drop her a line sometime next week. nothing needy, just something funny, and flirty.

im guessing its really hard for u to go so long without talking to her. i know how that felt. but i just learned to deal with it, whenever i felt like i needed to break the freeze, id hold off just a lil longer and she would end up texting me or something. if she wants to be part of your life in some way, she will get a hold of you.

Permission to be sincere? Man ive left so many things behind in this life I really not afraid of dont talking to her, in short I moved alone to another country once no family, made me stronger. All I don´t want is she to think Im a wussy cause I gave up. And just pop back SPAM start again you know? She is supposed to have exams next week maybe I could call after it? Well why text I dont like text oki I can text asking if after the exams she opened my book and I can deliver her book back. And lets be sincere there is always time. she is pondering imho, not sure how can I make this process turn favorable for me.

its kinda dificult to comprehend cuz i dont know youre whole situation and i done know exactly what youve experienced with this girl. i have a good frame set, so if a girl like that wouldnt commit to meeting me, id shrug it off and be like "aw thats too bad, maybe next time. cya" no biggie.

then pop in maybe a couple of weeks later with some cocky/funny text that doesnt require a response. just to get her talking to you again. a call may seem kinda needy. if she responds well, keep talking to her and escalate, maybe then call her or mention something youre doing and welcome her to join in. if she doesnt respond well, freeze her out.

I will message in somedays Ive finished the book.

Oki Ive messages saying Ive readthe book. So now Im on void. I wonder if I should call in fact I wonder if I should have called the SMS is kind of unpersonall and needy. The call could be finer I could just speak. Not sure. :/
So folks would you have called or smsed?

Ah and before someone come saying I got one itis I arranged a date with another girl to thursday. So I will survive But I want to play it right and by now Im lost :p

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