Hi all !

Where I live, when you go to a bar, you always have some stupid bad boys. Who just want to fight to fight.
It's the drunk that asks you what's wrong when you walk in and you push him by accident very gently and say "pardon me".
Or the drunk who you were looking at by accident cuz you were looking for a friend and asks you "what are you looking at"?
Or the frustrated bad boy who sees you talking to those hot girls and gets jealous and starts to push you.
The bad boy who comes standing next to you , looking into your eye and
1. when you stop looking and disacknowledge him starts pushing you
2. keeps looking at you wen you look back and will eventually beat the crap out of you if you don't stop.

How do you deal with this guys when you encounter them in a set or even with your girlfriend?

Thanks !

Option 1- AMOG tactics. Make fun of them, let what they say roll off your back. Let them know that you think they aren't worth your time. No one wants to be around drunks and no one needs to take their shit.

Option 2- If they aren't too drunk buy them a drink and tell them to leave you alone.

Option 3- Beet the crap out of them, they deserve the lesson.

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Anyone can walk into a bar and pick up a random girl.
The trick is to make the experience unforgettable to her.
A real PUA will make every women he encounters feel like she experience something once in a lifetime.

I posted this on two pickup forums before and I'm including this in my book:

WTF Rose?! Those are terrible ways to deal with AMOGs, because you have to watch out for getting into a fight and it generally shows lower value when you are shitting on a set's friends.

I ALWAYS make guys my BEST FRIENDS. Instantly they are patting me on the back and handing me their women on a silver platter, which the women are cool with, cause now a real man has stepped up and I'm not being aggressive, I'm not picking fights with her friends/bf and because her friends/bf already like me so much, well she immediatly assumes I'm an awesome guy.

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Hey how we all doing?

Listen you're a real man so what any body else does has no effect on you.

Amoging in a set is easy ignore him and he will mess himself up.

As for these badboys you're in a public environment do not be intimidated but do not be reactive. If something happens the bouncers are going to beat the shit out of him. Another thing that happens often is your target will respect you for not being childish and fighting and isolate you.

Just ignore the drama.

ChowforNow,

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"Whether or not you agree with his harsh, straight to the point mentality, truth be told, he’s the most active/ dedicated / motivating member on this board. He’s routinely getting newbies and current members out sarging, pushing them into sets, given them suggestions and advice, replying to posts more often then anyone else. (Come out Wednesdays and you’ll see what I mean). Also, I have not once heard him making excuses about not going out and pussying out. If anyone else can show me this, I will automatically promote you to any status that you want on this board. (including admin).

Now .. I (and others) .. have tried a more sugar coated / feel good approach to getting guys to come out. Truth be told, it hasn’t worked anywhere close as well. I'm dissappointed that with all the free resources, and the cool guys that we have offering free advice, so few people actually make use of it, go out consistantly, and get better with women, instead of dabbling and keyboard jockeying."

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"Only see, somehow it always seems that I'm learnin' or something I can never be It dosen't matter to me, 'cause I will always be that pimp I see
in all my fantasies I don't know your fucking name.So what?
Let's.fuck"

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Give them back 100% what they give you, then turn it around. They figure they can get violent with you because they can justify that _you_ are the douchebag. You're not the douchebag, but if you run into him, or you're talking to a bunch of girls and he figures "they don't like it," or if he can say you were disrespecting him, he can tell the story to his friends and be happy with himself. If you offer him a stick of gum and he kicks your ass anyway, it becomes a much less awesome story for him.

Prove you're not a pussy. Give him back _exactly as much_ as he gives you (if you have to give more or less, give less). Then ask him where he got his shirt. Or introduce him to your friends (Hey, this guy just shoved me, by way of Cave Man Introduction. We'll name him Grugg!). Or ask him his opinion on a hot girl. Whatever, just take his frame away from him and tie up his poor alcohol-destroyed brain with it. Make him your friend, and suddenly your set has a protector from all the other douchebags who are just out to fight (and it's not you! Hooray!)

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nice.

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Omg nice reactions ! Will implement some tonight if I get amoged.

The line I get a lot is "Stop bothering those girls".

Last time it went well in the set, this drunk guys came and said : "leave those girls alone". And I see them looking like ( OMG, what a fuckface ; I KNOW I DONT bother them ), but after I said "I'm not bothering them, we're having fun" ; he started pushing and said : yes you do, go away ! ( with his ugly drunface ). I look like I'm not going away and he continues pushing or starts hitting my shoulder.
Eventually I go to some friends/otherpart of the club or I leave the club cuz I hate this type of shit !

I don't think this is the best thing to do.

Impact, Rye Lee, and Monkey are ontop of it!

All great points! I like Impacts way of turning him into a idiot, i like Ryans befriend, and Monkeys reframe and protect! awsome!

You 3 need to start a business together!

I generally don't have to deal with this. I'm 6'3" and 270lbs, so generally most guys don't press me like this. However, I've never been the guy that gave a shit if somebody bumped into me on accident. People are drunk, they don't think rational and you have to take that into consideration. I'll throw down if I have to, but it's a last resort tactic for me.

Monkey: Make you a deal. Promise you'll stop flirting with me and I'll introduce you.

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I like head games here. My favorite is to ask them if they want to take your test/game/quiz what ever.

Ask them how many fingers you are holding up (while rapidly moving them back and forth).

1. It's C/F
2. It takes the frame away from them and disarms them
3. At the very least you get a joke out of their friends, so their friends will tell them to leave you alone. Drunk AMOGs can be treated like target HBs, win their friends (but avoid negging them) then bs about how they are very cool, etc.

Are you serious?! Buy some ass-hole thats hassling you a drink with your money! That is the most pathetic thing I've ever heard, on any forum I've ever been on!If you consider this option your NOT an alpha male in the slightest, and I'd suggest crawling under the table and crying until every bully you know, in the entire world,happens to suddenly drop dead and you no longer have to waste loads of money buying them drinks...
Or, if you have but an once of self respect you can manipulate the social dynamics and make these bully's your bitches.Use head games if you want (For this I suggest reading Robert Green's great book "The 48 Laws of Power", or studying Tyler Durden's great tips on handling the AMOG), or quite simply, if anyones giving you trouble just tell him in a clear calm voice to 'f**k off', and get the security to remove him.
I'd rather get a black eye then insult my own self worth by buying someone I don't like a drink...

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