Shades,

Dude, it's fine. You asked a really good question that got a lot of opinions and responses. Kudos to you. We're all just enjoying talking about the hypothetical and theoretical. No attack meant on you, at all, bud.

Keep asking the good questions... they are rare around here as of late.

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unfortunately, one that wouldn't be poached for its horns?

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Nah i am just saying that i really do not try and ever think it was a girls fault. If i do that, every time i fail at something, i do not want to say it was her fault. Cause i like to believe that every girl can be picked up, and if i fail at doing so, it was something that i did, not just because she had a bitchy attitude. every failure is just a learning experience in my mind. but thanks for all the advice, keep it coming. i am posting another topic labeled "party downers." it is a situational thing again

It is his problem if he wants to remain at a certain level in a social circle. For his insults, he was promptly asked to leave and his game would have been destroyed by that one girl the rest of the night even if he did stay.

Exactly the right attitude. Doesn't mean you should beat yourself up over it, but a bad reaction from a person, whether they are male or female, is always in your control. Sometimes there are people that are in a shit mood and you pretty much couldn't say anything that would make them reply civily, but unfortunately that's still your mistake for approaching them and giving them enough to get snappish about, instead you need to notice those people on the approach and be able to eject before things escalate.

We learn more from our mistakes than we ever will from our successes though, so you just learned an awesome lesson!

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~ Rye

You know how they say neg the HB7 once and neg the HB9+ a few times? Well the opposite applies to the not so nice looking women. They have normally got low self esteem and even though you were not intentionally negging it had the same effect. While negs drop bitch shields for hotties they do damage to the non-hotties.

okay, well, you said that she was a big girl. Keep in mind that negging a girl that is big and ugly can be very bad. You say that she was the alpha female and this might be very far from the truth. You negged her and she can easily take this as an insult. To her, when somebody teases her, she IS being teased and nothing else. If she was an HB, then she is not used to being teased, so this comes off as something new, that couldn't really be true. If you are going to befriend a big girl, be INTERESTING. LOL...weird as it may sound, don't try to seem charming or cool, or she will think that you are actually hitting on her. Instead, be the guy that has something to say. I don't know if this will be of any help lol

hmmmmmm

Okay, I'm doing this as an example because private messages, public announcements, and more roundabout methods aren't working.

DO EVERYONE A FAVOR and don't bump old posts (the last post date before your oh-so-eloquent "hmmmmm" was in March.)

Also, If you're going to bump, everyone is going to judge you unless you add some innovative, incredible, epiphany inspiring comment. You know what, even if you do make history with your comment, don't bump old threads. Start a new one, and reference the old one with a link or something.

This goes for everyone. Reference old threads. Don't revive them. It's forum etiquette.

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