Now I have plenty of good openers, and I opened a set today with some friends as a pivot and owned them, but I ran into some serious problems when trying to practice day gaming at the mall.

1. I can't be as outrageous as I am at night, because it seems out of place.

2. I don't know how to open girls on the move when I'm walking the other way. Should I just say "hi" and then act as if I just thought of something or what?

3. How should I open a frowning girl sitting on a park bench.

4. How do you open an HB with her mom?

This is so frustrating. I need to get good at this or I'm going to lose my God damned mind. (Suggestions are as welcome as ever).

~Fra Diavlo

3. You go up to her and say, "Smile. There's never a reason not to smile."

Wait for her response. If it's very negative, then you're better off moving on. She's having a very bad day. Your first move is to sound sympathetic. People love to spill to strangers, for some odd reason. Then you just build comfort, and try to make an instant date (hey, let's go to that coffee shop over there.). Use kino while talking to her, but make it caring; nothing seductive. Seduction will get a highly negative response from her. You need to lift up her spirits first, before you can make a move.

4. Open it up just like a regular 2 set. Treat the mom like an obstacle, and make sure to befriend her first. Compliment her with comments about how youthful she looks. Older women love things like that.

If you feel like you can #-close, then ask the mom first. "Well, Mrs. *blank*, I actually came over, because I wanted to ask your lovely daughter out on a date. That's OK, right?" You flash her a grin. Unless she's overly bitchy, she'll give you space and back off. You're free to game the daughter by herself.

The only problem for me is that trying any of this stuff in the uk is a sure way to get into trouble or recieve a begative response.

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dude, trhats sounds so fking weird about the mom thing. i dunno if u guys are in californiua or whatever, but in nj and ny and i think all of east coast, moms would think ur reeaaaly creepy.

my advice abiut the momm thing would be to not do it.

also, i tried to sarge in a malkl and it kinda sucked shit, so maybe try to find a teen club those are good.

Really? I compliment older women all the time. They friggin love it.

I think it really depends on how you compliment her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-fubIpIaM8

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If memory serves me correctly, bluethunder371 is in middle school. Get the hell out of the game before you ruin your life. I'm a grown ass man, and there is no way in hell I would take advice from someone who hasn't even finished puberty yet.

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