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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:34 am 
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I approached this cute woman last night and got her Line contact. I told her I would call her to tell her about a fun plan for us to meet up tomorrow and she told me to call her at 2pm. It is about 2:30pm here in Japan, so we just finished our phone call.

She sounded really happy that I called her and even thanked me for calling her. I told her where to meet me and that there is this romantic, relaxing hotel I want to take her to in a confident voice. She told me that she would be willing to go with me next time, but not today because it is our first time dating today. I know she doesn't want to come off as "easy" and that she wants to "get to know me" before hooking up.

I finally just told her that we would hang out at a park today instead. What sucks is that I still want to talk her into going to the hotel with me once we start talking at the park.

My question is for women that "want to talk" before sex...how can I control this slippery conversation and survive the brutal 50 questions game?

I have been getting better at deflecting questions with jokes and "well what about you" responses, but I'm trying to improve my ability to take enough control of the conversation that she wants to be in control of while still earning her to trust in me enough to have sex with me after the talk.

I have pulled this off a couple times before but it is such a hassle and so dramatic. Do any PUA experts on here know how to handle this situation well?

I want to try to keep her questions to a minimum and keep in control of the conversation.


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I approached this cute woman last night and got her Line contact. I told her I would call her to tell her about a fun plan for us to meet up tomorrow and she told me to call her at 2pm. It is about 2:30pm here in Japan, so we just finished our phone call.

She sounded really happy that I called her and even thanked me for calling her. I told her where to meet me and that there is this romantic, relaxing hotel I want to take her to in a confident voice. She told me that she would be willing to go with me next time, but not today because it is our first time dating today. I know she doesn't want to come off as "easy" and that she wants to "get to know me" before hooking up.

I finally just told her that we would hang out at a park today instead. What sucks is that I still want to talk her into going to the hotel with me once we start talking at the park.

My question is for women that "want to talk" before sex...how can I control this slippery conversation and survive the brutal 50 questions game?

I have been getting better at deflecting questions with jokes and "well what about you" responses, but I'm trying to improve my ability to take enough control of the conversation that she wants to be in control of while still earning her to trust in me enough to have sex with me after the talk.

I have pulled this off a couple times before but it is such a hassle and so dramatic. Do any PUA experts on here know how to handle this situation well?

I want to try to keep her questions to a minimum and keep in control of the conversation.


If a woman interrogates me, she better be a Victoria Secret model, or she's not getting a second date. I consider this "nag" behavior, and a deal breaker. That's how I handle it-find better women.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:23 am 
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I approached this cute woman last night and got her Line contact. I told her I would call her to tell her about a fun plan for us to meet up tomorrow and she told me to call her at 2pm. It is about 2:30pm here in Japan, so we just finished our phone call.

She sounded really happy that I called her and even thanked me for calling her. I told her where to meet me and that there is this romantic, relaxing hotel I want to take her to in a confident voice. She told me that she would be willing to go with me next time, but not today because it is our first time dating today. I know she doesn't want to come off as "easy" and that she wants to "get to know me" before hooking up.

I finally just told her that we would hang out at a park today instead. What sucks is that I still want to talk her into going to the hotel with me once we start talking at the park.

My question is for women that "want to talk" before sex...how can I control this slippery conversation and survive the brutal 50 questions game?

I have been getting better at deflecting questions with jokes and "well what about you" responses, but I'm trying to improve my ability to take enough control of the conversation that she wants to be in control of while still earning her to trust in me enough to have sex with me after the talk.

I have pulled this off a couple times before but it is such a hassle and so dramatic. Do any PUA experts on here know how to handle this situation well?

I want to try to keep her questions to a minimum and keep in control of the conversation.


If a woman interrogates me, she better be a Victoria Secret model, or she's not getting a second date. I consider this "nag" behavior, and a deal breaker. That's how I handle it-find better women.
Yes, this is what I usually do as well. I'm trying to find out if there is a way to still have the "talk" with them while controlling the conversation and still get laid anyway?

There must be a way...though it seems difficult.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:21 am 
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Ok, let's say she is a Victoria Secret model hypothetically.

How would you control the talk to get her to agree to sex on the first date?


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Ok, let's say she is a Victoria Secret model hypothetically.

How would you control the talk to get her to agree to sex on the first date?

Haha, nice.

Some women (okay let's be honest, a lot of women) have these pre-set agendas. The ones with fully loaded and diverse agendas ask a lot of questions and try to control the discourse.

I can't stand it, just like I can't stand chunky women who watch tons of TV and drink wine all day. I run from it. No..I FLEE from it. Strong, independent, and sex positive women who are emotionally intelligent DO NOT come to dates with agendas. They ask themselves, "does this man make me laugh and smile? Does he excite me? Is he fun?". And that's it.

And so should a man.

I would have to be ridiculously attracted to a woman to tolerate this on a first date. So, let's day it is a super model, and my type physically.

I'd knock her interview off course with shocking, playfull honesty. As always, being congruent and completely honest is the best method for ALL women, naggy or not.

Her: Do you want kids?
Me: Na. I'm great at being a bachelor. But...wait. Maybe if I started a new business, I'd want a few kids for cheap labor.


Her: Where do you see yourself in five years?
You: Thinking about the five year anniversary of you asking me this question. (credit to Mitch Hedberg for this one).


Her: So, are you trying to have sex with me tonight? (common with naggy women)
You: Of course.

Her: How much money do you make?
You: How much do you weigh?


The point is to derail all of the bullshit. You do it playfully though, with a smirk, not bitterness. It has several affects:

1. Your honesty is fucking REFRESHING.
2. Honesty is not boring.
3. You look like a unique personality.

This is know as "charm". Once you get the Agenda Wall down, you simply escalate like always.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:43 am 
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Ok, let's say she is a Victoria Secret model hypothetically.

How would you control the talk to get her to agree to sex on the first date?

Haha, nice.

Some women (okay let's be honest, a lot of women) have these pre-set agendas. The ones with fully loaded and diverse agendas ask a lot of questions and try to control the discourse.

I can't stand it, just like I can't stand chunky women who watch tons of TV and drink wine all day. I run from it. No..I FLEE from it. Strong, independent, and sex positive women who are emotionally intelligent DO NOT come to dates with agendas. They ask themselves, "does this man make me laugh and smile? Does he excite me? Is he fun?". And that's it.

And so should a man.

I would have to be ridiculously attracted to a woman to tolerate this on a first date. So, let's day it is a super model, and my type physically.

I'd knock her interview off course with shocking, playfull honesty. As always, being congruent and completely honest is the best method for ALL women, naggy or not.

Her: Do you want kids?
Me: Na. I'm great at being a bachelor. But...wait. Maybe if I started a new business, I'd want a few kids for cheap labor.


Her: Where do you see yourself in five years?
You: Thinking about the five year anniversary of you asking me this question. (credit to Mitch Hedberg for this one).


Her: So, are you trying to have sex with me tonight? (common with naggy women)
You: Of course.

Her: How much money do you make?
You: How much do you weigh?


The point is to derail all of the bullshit. You do it playfully though, with a smirk, not bitterness. It has several affects:

1. Your honesty is fucking REFRESHING.
2. Honesty is not boring.
3. You look like a unique personality.

This is know as "charm". Once you get the Agenda Wall down, you simply escalate like always.
Well, I have gotten pretty good with derailing and deflecting questions playfully, but what if she is still not letting you escalate after that and you are really attracted to her?

My rule is that if I take the time to sit through a woman's bullshit talk and she still isn't willing to let me even make out with her on that same night, I literally walk away from her...like in the middle of the date. I just get up and leave.

One time, I was so pissed at one woman that I said, "Ok, I'm going to go talk to this woman over here and try to get her phone number" and I walked over to the other woman, flirted and got her number right in front of her. It was hilarious, but I felt that she was cockteasing me beyond my limits, so I just did what I needed to do in that situation lol.


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