I've been getting some great advice, but before I start to put it into effect I thought I'd try an approach so I can set a baseline to judge my improvement.

I was in Bestbuy, in the X-Box section, and I saw a girl fingering through the games and stopping to look at the latest Castlevania. I quickly lean over to her and say "Did you know that Trevor Belmont, not Simon, was the first to fight Dracula and it was in Castlevania 3, not 1, because 3 was a prequel." She looked at me dead in the eyes and said "I had no idea, thank you for telling me".

She turned and started to walk away but before she did I held my hand up in sort of a stop motion and said "My name is Francis, what's yours?" but by that point she was already halfway to the exit.

I didn't feel any AA but obviously this approach could have gone much better, can you guys give me pointers (aside from getting myself into a tribe, that is my first step before re-assuming approaches)

Honestly, it was a really bad opener. Just because someone was looking at a game doesn't mean they've played it/sequels/prequels before. It's better to open with something that almost anyone cam relate to, I.e do you think womem or men are better liars because blah blah. Now it wouldnt be a good opener for a store but you get the point right?

Well, I can see what you're saying. Help me out though bro, for example, I really love fanfiction (the reason I mention this is I have tons of Castlevanian fanfiction on my IPAD). What if I asked something like "Hey do you ever read/write fanfiction?" and related it back to Castlevania.

Sure that would be ok, but if she says "No" then you're kinda fucked right? You don't really wanna be talking all that much about what you like and what you do, the goal of opening is to get HER to talk. Asking her opinion does just that.

Oh that's true man, so if I said something like, "Hello there I notice you're holding Castlevania, what is attracting you to that videogame?". Is that better?

OP... it wasn't really a bad approach just a bad line. Typically most girls find video game talk nerdy. Some girls are into games but its few and far between so its better to say something more generic like "Have you played that game? Its really good".

I like to open with questions because it forces the her to talk to you (or be very rude) and it also gives you information on her mindset, mood, attitude, etc.. thus allowing you to adjust your approach accordingly.

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yeah a little better, I would say something like

"Hey, you played the previous ones? "
Her: Yes/No
if no
Me: what type of games are you into?
her: blah blah
if yes
Then just say stuff about the game you liked and ask her stuff.

I just wrote a long ass reply but it got deleted so I'll keep it short and simple. You're opener was corny and made you look geeky. It showed you were intelligent, but when you talk about games, it makes you look like a nerd. You should never introduce yourself first or ask for her name. She should be the one doing that.

Here is what I would have done. Played it more C&F

*She looks at castlevania game*

ME: "Ohhhh so you're that type of girl eh"

Her: "blahblahblah what type, no im not"

ME: "I mistook you for more of the roll playing type ya know? I didn't know blood and vampires was your kind of thing"

Her: /laugh "blahblah"

And bam you've successfully opened demonstrating many alpha traits like confidence, fun, playful, and alot more. You must play this as confidence, fun, and caring. It's all in the way you say it and your body language. Smile and be playful.

From here, you can treat her like ur bratty little sister and have a fun conversation while talking about all the video games that are on the shelf. Be like, "omg, this game is perfect for you! See?! Hello Kitty 3" or "Hey now... that fighting game looks alittle too R rated for you. HERE, take this game *hand her Ken And Barbie 2 or some corny ass game*, I hear it's quite popular among children ages 7 to 9"

See how much fun and easy it is? You both have a common interest. You both have props RIGHT infront of your eyes. And you can easily treat her like a bratty little sister busting her balls all the time. She'll love you for this.

Act as if you've known her for a long time. And for now, concentrate on not actually trying to get #'s from girls. Go into an approach with the mindset of "Hey, I'm gona bust on this girl for everything she does and just have fun and tease her. I have nothing to lose because we will enjoy each others company and have fun." If you do this, you will fear rejection less and actually have more success. It also shows you aren't needy and a lot more things

So at the end of the approach just say "I have a friend that's waiting for me. It was a pleasure to meet you" *Smile* and end it. I'm sure if she has ANY interest in you, she'll re-initiate the conversation with something like "What's your name" or even "Whats your #". Whatever it may be, it's a sign of IOI. In that case after you reply to her question, you can say.. "Do yoi have email"? She'll say yes because what girl doesn't. Then she "ok write your email down here". Emails are better and safer and she will be less receptive. As she is writing her email say "write down ur # on the bottom as well". She will be more willing if you do it like this because she is already writing her email, so why not? And then end the approach.

GL and let me know if you have any more questions

ps; you guys shouldn't be giving him such bad openers. This isn't an interview where you ask questions and questions.

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why not "hey im , youre kinda interesting"...."oh i wouoldnt go for that game...its got germs on it!"

girls know why youre speaking to them, so show her youre confident enough to admit it, adds some sexual tension too.

if youre not confident then just say youre name and put your name out for a handshake. but try and say she's interesting, kinda cute or something pretty soon in to the conversation


the "ohh i wouldnt go for...", i dunno about saying that after or as your opener but you see its lighthearted? kinda funny? but doesnt really make any sense but itll make her smile or laugh.

it means she doesnt have to think too much about it too much and open up a bit easier because its just a bit of fun.

opinions are cool too, but who do you think she'll want to fuck more; the guy who asked her about black nails being cool? or the guy who came over, held eye contact, cheeky grin and introduced himself?

opinions totally work but i dont like asking poinless opinions about things that havent happened to get to "hey your interesting" when you could say it straight off the bat.

no girl is going to like you more because you asked her about whether kissing is cheating either.

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So I should just go up and be like "Hey you're interesting"? Should there be any sort of context to it, or does that normally work? I'll do it if you say it's a good idea

The only time to open with that much video game knowledge is if she's dressed as Zelda at a convention and NOT working there.

mmmm well its as good as opener as any.

openers arent too important, no one gets laid off them. i still have trouble opening too.

but is a normal thing to say, "hey you guys alright?", "Hi im barney", smile and eye contact seductively, "who the hell are you", just walk up and talk about something you find funny for a few seconds.

just keep seductive eye contact and do a hand shake. that'll get you pretty far after your opener. you don't have to be DIRECT but don't be too UNDIRECT.

otherwise youre a friend or just a source of entertainment.

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I would just do what Shinigaml said, it would have the greatest effect

The way I see it, your opener doesn't have high hook point value, and it does make you appear as a computer/game nerd. Try something witty and funny which doesn't generate yes/no answer.
I would say something like "Okie, don't tell me you read the whole Twilight series, watch the movies 100 times, and now moving on to vampire games ?"
Normal response, she would laugh then reply. Either she hates the series or loves it, it still triggers more topic to talk about. From that you can start negging and teasing her. And since most of the girls have fantasies about either edward or jacob, her mind subconsciously falls into sexual frame, it will make it easier for you to escalate if you know what you're doing.
Not everyone has such deep knowledge about games, but on the other hand, everyone knows about popular movies even if she hasn't seen it.

Okay so you pointed out what doesn't work, why don't you tell me what does?

Everyone else in the thread has been extremely helpful but you seem almost angry. I appreciate your opinion but I don't necessarily need you putting your negative energy on me.

Thank you.