Just wanted to know what pointers can you give about sarging and opening HBs you see on uni campus when you are nearby, even if you are not an enrolled full time student?

Creepy comes straight to mind.. ..


there are soo many other places you can do it.. But then again if it's anything like the uni's in SE Australia.. you wont have an issue.. no one will question you.

Yeah but no more creepy than some other sarge locations?

I suppose you could just conveniently stop by to the uni cafe as they have cheap stuff. Never had that problem in the capital before at any of the many higher education institutions that exist out here.

Use a "false time constraint" perhaps? (e.g. I'm visiting a friend, I'm attending a meeting/evening class) besides I saw a discussion about this somewhere else before and a good point was raised - girls would love to speak to a "REAL MAN" with a career rather than yet another inebriated student in baggy clothes. You being the man with a career is an instant DHV, is it not?

Could work well, be careful.. these are not lies your gunna wanna live long term.

My policy:
Honesty is the best policy. (With a bit of humor)

If a girl asks me, "What, are you just trying to get in my pants?", I'd say, "Why, yes. Yes I am, and from the looks of things, I'm doing a great job."

In your case, things might go like this:
(Middle of conversation)
Girl: So what's your major?
You: Nothing.
Girl: undecided?
You: nope, I don't go here (Or, I'm not a fan or college, or something on the lines of that)
Girl: Then are you just here to meet girls?
You: Why yes, yes I am.
Girl: That pretty creepy/weird/dumb.
You: Really? Then why are you still here.


See, honesty is always great.
Just make sure you make it painfully obvious that your joking and sarcastic because if you say this with a straight face, you will act like a total creeper. At least, you know... Just a little smile.

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Absolutely not.

Instant crash and burn, waste of time. Admitting to just being there to meet girls? Complete fail and a girl could tell people and you get a bad rep and instant downhill spiral.

How about ideas on how to open and stop a random girl on campus or in the canteen? Y'see, unis do have an open door approach to visitors so can give you benefit of the doubt and you can use it as an excuse to get to the canteen if you are starving - valid reason to be on campus even if not a full time student.

Haha, wow. Have you even tried this?

You sound like some guy for whom this type of style goes wrong in YOUR HEAD, and never actually try it.
But then again, if you don't wanna learn anything that seems foreign to you and take a chance, more power to ya.
Hey, before you totally dismiss my advice, take note that this style has worked for me AND most of the college I help out to get dates.

Have fun.

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You can tell her you're about to start your degree here, and you're scouting to see if its a good choice, this will get you an instant date where she shows you around campus or at least get some topics start.

It may work in the USA or certainly in Georgia or the southern states, maybe in some colleges, but I can assure you NOT anywhere in Europe!

I think it's creepy as fuck. Even worse if you invent stories about yourself to get laid. But if you're insecure about who you are, I guess a fake persona will do the job for a SNL. If you're so married to the idea of picking up on campus, follow thinman's advice. You'll need a strong frame to pull it off, but don't you want the girl pleasing you instead of you pretending in order to please the girl?

Creepy as fuck to what? Game on a uni campus when not enrolled? What if you are visiting or on a part time course? (use the excuse of "oh i had to see someone").

I'd certainly do the opner of asking what her major is but NOT say anything that would make her think "so, you trying to get into my pants". Yet.

I just need some good ideas for OPENERS that could work. Y'know, an excuse to strike up a conversation with an attractive stranger?

In fact, whilst I accept your view and even if it may have worked for you before it seems to almost totally contradict some of the points made in this almost similar thread direct-approaching-on-campus-vt87676.html

Ok, here's the deal. People only say it's a hit or miss because they don't know what to do if a girl reacts badly to it. Usually, guy will think of some weak ass excuse when a girl is questioning him on why he said that. Then he loses the girl's attention because she realises that he wasn't as strong as she thought he was in the beginning.

Now, let's discuss if this is an AFC move. I personally believe that this is not. Why do I say that? Well, have you ever seen an AFC do it? Haha, I haven't. Actually, most AFCs I've spotted trying will go indirect. They'll think of preplanned openers that don't generate interest with the girl.
Ex:
"I like that dress."
I'm not gonna lie. If you know what you're doing, this one could work. It's a little weak though.
"Dang, it's cold today."
Wtf, you really just came up to a hottie to ask about the weather?
"You smoke?"
Yes, she's sitting right there smoking, moron.

These are a lot of lines I see in use by AFCs.
THey're all weak and girls are being asked shit like that all the time. When does she ever get a random confident guy tell her she is a total cutey in the middle of the day? Uh, almost never. She will remember the guy that does because he's standing out of the crowd. That must mean that this is not a technique that AFCs use often.

Also, this is my style of game I use during campus hours. I have NEVER had a bad reaction to telling a girl she's got some nice legs, or telling her she's the cutest girl you've seen all day right in the morning.
But, that's because I'm smart when I use lines that are direct.
If a girl is wearing shorts and show off her legs, then I'd say she had sexy legs. Reason? Well, let's think about this for a moment. She most likely dressed like that to appeal to guys. Why would she be mad if some guy acknowledged what she was trying to accomplish?
This is the same with everything else like makeup. If a girl didn't want guys to think they were hot/beautiful/cute, then they wouldn't bother with any of that stuff.


Many of those guy on that thread probably just didn't like being too open with girls because being direct is much easier to get hurt than being indirect.

What other points should I hit that were on that thread...

Oh yeah! Someone says going direct will ruin your college rep. Well, how the fuck does going indirect not? I mean, getting rejected whether you did direct or indirect gaming, is still rejection.. Girls will still talk about how they rejected you. You will still get the bad rep around school regardless of what kind of game. So if you think about it, this point doesn't have any logic to it.


Uhhh, I think that's it for now.

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OK point taken, thinhman.

Agree that those AFC statements are bland. File under "nice but bland". It's like stating the obvious but I suppose it is a good ice breaker and if witty enough you can transition the conversation a bit further. So complimenting a girl on her dress is not that lame an opener if you can transition well, is it?

Directly telling a girl she looks nice is all good and well but, even if she dresses with the intention of looking good, what if she still gets creeped out and thinks "OK, creepy weirdo obviously hitting on me" and starts to back off?

And finally, I am not a full time student so only occasionally visit campus.

I acutally like it when a new guy uses a weak direct opener such as "I like your bracelet." A lot of girls wont know that you're showing interest yet, but it's good practice for the guy to inch closer to becoming more direct.
For an experienced guy, this type of opener is weak, but doable if you know what to say afterwords.


Do you really want a girl who's mindset is so negative?

I would prefer a girl who would laugh or make fun of me when I say something like this. That will tell me that she's a fun person to be around.

If she has the mindset of (Ewww, who is this weird guy tryinbg to hit on me) even though ALL you did was tell her she looked cute, then it tells you a lot about her personality.
She might be a very judging person or maybe she's stuck up?
Or it COULD mean that she's having a bad day.

Anyways, what I do when I come across a girl like this is leave. For one, I'm looking to have fun and a girl like this doesn't sound like she'd have much fun with me.


If you insist on gaming such a girl, then it'll require more work, but being direct was still a good thing. If she thinks you're a creeper, then you need to go funny. If she's backing off, stop pushing forward. You need to get her to laugh and be more comfortable around you. A good way is to call her out on if she thinks you're a creeper even before she says anything about you being a creeper.
Ex: "So, you think I'm a creeper. I can see it in your eyes."... "What qualifies as a creeper?"
When doing things like this, make sure you're smiling so she doesn't think you're a REAL creeper.

See, a real creeper would probably be awkward in such a situation. If you are lighthearted, and joke around the whole creeper idea with her, she'll eventually come to realize that you're a cool guy. THEN you start pushing forward again. Start touching her to create sexual tension. Etc, etc.

Then you come across girls who are just bitches. They're gonna think lowly of you whether or not you go direct or indirect. They're not "hard" to game, but I'll just usually move on to the next because I'm not willing to waste that much energy on that type of chick.

It doesn't matter whether or not you're a college kid. As long as you don't look like you're 40, then it really doesn't matter.
If she asks about your major, like I said before, go truthful. Then go funny.


P.S. You CAN laugh a woman into bed. Keep that in mind.

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